Great post. Thank you for sharing. I found it interesting how he spoke about the JW's dehumanizing. What a great word to describe it.
Posts by ToesUp
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2Great video to watch. (for our newer forum members)
by stuckinarut2 insome of our newer forum members may not have had the chance to see the great videos from theramintrees.
enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewehb4qm1hg.
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Relaxed rules toward oral sex?
by Socrateswannabe inthese people won't state anything definitively, but here's an excerpt from the study article entitled "making christian marriage a success", in the august, 2016 watchtower.
it does make me wonder.. although the bible does not provide specific rules about the kinds and limits of love play that might be associated with natural, sexual intimacy, it mentions displays of affection.
(song of solomon 1:2; 2:6) christian marriage partners should treat each other with tenderness.
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ToesUp
Silentbuddha - LOL. The wife and I are dying with laughter!
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Forced to Choose Between Beliefs and Family
by Roger Kirkpatrick in[please feel free to share.].
forced to choose between beliefs and family.
“no one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds objectionable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.” that statement appeared in an article entitled “is it wrong to change your religion?” in the july 2009 awake magazine, published and distributed widely by jehovah’s witnesses.. nearly everyone reading that statement would consider it to be mere common sense.
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ToesUp
"No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds objectionable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.” That statement appeared in an article entitled “Is It Wrong to Change Your Religion?” in the July 2009 Awake magazine, published and distributed widely by Jehovah’s Witnesses."
What was WT thinking when it put this in the ragazine? It just goes to show you how they talk out of both sides of their mouths! Idiots! And we are supposed to try and use logic with these people? NOT!
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Good for you Dub!
It's funny you ran into someone that studied and felt something was off. I spent my entire JW life feeling that "something just isn't right." I used to tell my spouse that on a daily basis. "Something is just not right" is a true understatement. So happy to free!
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Have you noticed this trend on social media amongst witnesses...?
by stuckinarut2 init seems that every 2nd witness often posts pictures of themselves at conventions, or out in 'service'.
but i have noticed that they never seem to post anything about the actual "spiritual content" of their activity!
instead, it is pictures of them with their witness "friends", along with some contrite comment like #bestlifeever (arrghhh).
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ToesUp
It's a social club! All about appearances. You would be surprised how many drink in excess and are on every form of anti depressants when they return home. We know a bunch, including family.
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Just Offended A JW Cart Witness Without Even Trying
by pale.emperor inon my way into town from my office.
two carts set up a few feet from each other.
one manned by a man and woman (i assume they're a couple) in their late 30s.. the guys walks off to the other cart as im walking by, i wasn't going to approach but the woman holding the awake!
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ToesUp
You know how most JW men gotta keep the little woman in line. Lol
Like Rutherford said..."a hank of hair and bag of bones." My husband and I joke about that saying all of the time.
Ya just gotta laugh at them, they are sad. "Best Iife ever?" Standing around at a cart is the best life ever? Maybe if they keep repeating that, they will start believing it.
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Ridiculous (degrading) comment on society's video
by Festus inon video "benefits of divine education" william samuelsson makes totally appalling comment.. starting from 3:05 he refers to "an effort" that was made in past to see how society's curriculum corresponds with normal - worldly - universities.. then he claims that following question was asked (to university representative) "how we in five months can teach the same that for them takes two years"?.
according to w samuelsson the representative of a university replied something like this: "your students are motivated, they have come to learn where as our students have been send to university by their parents and might have something else than learning in their mind".
this is to crystallize what he said.
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Another question for those interviewed.....after your 5 months of training can you purchase a home, car, food, clothing, have a 401k, save for retirement. Do you also get medical, dental and life insurance?
You see...we have family members who have this "divine education " they speak about. They are living in their parents basement and waiting on Jah to throw down some food. This stuff infuriates me but make me laugh. If only these idiots could see how hard my kids have had to work to receive real beneficial training not some fake form that only benefits Watchtower.
Watchtower has to make those who have sacrificed all normal education feel better about themselves. It really ticks off a brother who has divine education when he and his wife are living off mom and dad and they have to see Brother successful pull up in his new BMW and posting pictures on Facebook of his new home and luxurious vacation him and his lovely wife can enjoy. I have seen this happen first hand. The spiritual ones are so jealous of the successful ones. Especially when the successful one is an Elder and so is the divinely educated one.
During the annual meeting they interviewed all of the Bethel doctors. Ask these ones being interviewed if they would like one of these doctors to work on them if they only had 5 months of education. These clips make me realize how delusional these guys are!!!!
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Ridiculous (degrading) comment on society's video
by Festus inon video "benefits of divine education" william samuelsson makes totally appalling comment.. starting from 3:05 he refers to "an effort" that was made in past to see how society's curriculum corresponds with normal - worldly - universities.. then he claims that following question was asked (to university representative) "how we in five months can teach the same that for them takes two years"?.
according to w samuelsson the representative of a university replied something like this: "your students are motivated, they have come to learn where as our students have been send to university by their parents and might have something else than learning in their mind".
this is to crystallize what he said.
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ToesUp
WT has always demonized EVERYTHING. I never realized how much they did it until I exited the cult. No one can do it better than Watchtower. In other words...you will never succeed better than what Watchtower has to offer. Try telling a university that you received the same training in a cult that you could have received at a two to four year university. They will laugh in your face.
Narcissists always think they are the very best.
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2017 Convention Recording: JWs Applaud 10yo Girl For Shunning Her Own Sister
by pale.emperor inthis poor girl was baptized at 9yo.
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she isnt old enough to buy alcohol, to vote, to decide her own medical treatment, to buy a pet, to travel alone... yet she was deemed old enough to dedicate her life to a religion that will cut her off from her family if she ever leaves.. here she is applauded for shunning her own sister who tried to keep in contact with her after waking up.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzgnfda8ki.
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Mold em while they are young! That's why we got our kids out of the cult.
Watchtower has sunken to it's lowest on this one. Really Watchtower, you have to use kids to get your dirty disgusting message to the drones?
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Returning to the truth.
by Justmeok2 inhi i am just starting to rebuild my relationship with jehovah.
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i would like to hear from people who may be or have been in similar situations and now want to dedicate their lives to him..
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ToesUp
Everyone has given you great advise. I hope you read through it all. I only have one word for you when returning to Jehovah (aka the organization).....RUN!