Posts by ToesUp

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Invited to a talk: What to do?

by Fred Franztone in

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my sister texted me last night with an invitation to watch our dad give his first ever public talk.

i don't live particularly near to my family, but i'm not too far from them to make the journey, and i am on good terms with them, having never been baptised and so not disfellowshipped; they don't shun me and likely wouldn't even if i were disfellowshipped, it's not in their character.. i haven't been inside a kingdom hall since 2006, and i would like to keep it that way; i only intend to step inside one again in the event of a family wedding or funeral service.

i don't want to be rude to my sister, ignoring the text isn't an option, so i need a diplomatic way of declining her invitation.. i've considered saying that i'm busy, but this leaves things open for her to ask again in the future, and i'd rather she got the message that i'm not interested, without me having to say so in an explicit way.. any suggestions from those who have been in a similar situation?.

ToesUp

We have also had invitations. If you do not explain to them why you won't attend, they will just continue to invite you. If you feel comfortable, speak from your heart. Be honest.

We have had to do this with our family. We told them we love them and nothing will change that. We will be there for them BUT if you don't believe in the doctrines, tell them.

You have one advantage, you are not baptized.

If you dodge them, they will just come back to you with more invites.

If people WANT to be in your life, they will, If not, at least you were honest with them. Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

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Climbing Out of The Box

by Lost in the fog in

i have been reading the blog of bruce gerencser, a 61 year old evangelical pastor who moved on to being an atheist and humanist.

his description of climbing out of that box and the reasons why he did so will, i am sure, resonate with many of us on here.

https://brucegerencser.net/2015/02/danger-box-makes-sense/.

ToesUp

Fantastic article! Thank you so much for sharing this!!!

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Be Couragous! - (Like The Governing Body?)

by pale.emperor in

i was watching lloyd evans rebuttal to the saturday program of the be courageous convention.

lloyd pointed out something that had occurred to me as well:.

all this talk and examples of courage, whether it be standing up in class defending intelligent design, putting up with being imprisoned, not running away from bullies, always having a reply to someone who tries to ridicule your faith... the young ones are encourages - nay, commanded - to stand their ground and be courageous.

ToesUp

Great post PE!

After watching Lloyd's video, my spouse and I were just talking about this very thing. These GB members are cowards! Maybe one day they will have to feel the very pain of spending some time in prison. So many brothers and sisters have suffered due to WT's policies. Karma is coming for them!!!

It seems WT's yearly text should say..."do as we say, not as we do."

They also want to squelch any rank and files ability to better themselves with higher education or enjoy something they are good at (like music, sports, etc.) WT doesn't have any problem capitalizing off of others higher education or something WT can benefit off of for free. i.e. Lawyers, doctors, musicians, engineers, etc. The list could go on and on!!! Hypocrisy to the moon and back!!!!

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Loving their head-down-we-gotta-shun-you interactions

by oppostate in

i gotta say i'm loving their head-down-we-gotta-shun-you interactions.. yesterday at the hospital i was headed out when in comes an ex-elder with his sadly ill mother in law in a wheelchair.

since he was wheeling her in, i held the door for him, and shined a big smile both to his mil and to him.

she looked at me with very open eyes, (she's never been a jw), and seemed to appreciate the friendly favor.

ToesUp

"He on the other hand bent his neck to the side and his head way down"

It really is pathetic.

Just a hint: Keep your hat on so they can't see your horns. lol

It really shows the kind of people they are.

We find, like you, they are really perplexed if you give em a smile, are pleasant and VERY happy.

Remember, they are stuck in a cult, you aren't! Sucks to be them! Rock on!!!

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Are YOU Shunned By JW Family or Friends?

by minimus in

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some who are not disfellowshipped are still shunned i also know there’ are disfellowshipped ones that family still associate with..

ToesUp

"Sit up and pay attention assholes -- you've made so many enemies that the tables have turned."

Love your post Doc. I couldn't have said it better myself!

For all of you who have sat on the other side of the table during a JC and were bullied into giving intimate details of your "sin." Now is the time to sit up and take notice of how WT is handling being "on the other side of the table." Maybe some of the abuse victims (child abuse, emotional abuse, physical abuse) will get some justice watching this cult have to answer for all the things THEY DID NOT DO. As the ole saying goes...."turnabout is fair play." It's comin for ya Watchtower. All you innocent victims...grab your popcorn and enjoy the show. I KNOW WE WILL!!!!

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Are YOU Shunned By JW Family or Friends?

by minimus in

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some who are not disfellowshipped are still shunned i also know there’ are disfellowshipped ones that family still associate with..

ToesUp

"I think we are being "soft shunned." We are not DF'd or DA'd and no one in the congregation knows why we left a few years ago. Limited conversations with family. Small talk.

We have bumped into a few of our old KH "friends." So far they have been cordial and friendly. I think the thing that perplexes them, we really are happy and we show it. We do this even at home. We have a lot to be grateful for and we figure if people WANT to be in our life, they are more than welcome. If not, good riddance, their loss. We are the same happy, generous and kind people we were when still in the cult. We just don't believe what we used to.

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JW Nut Telling His Story Online

by pale.emperor in

while searching for some jw related stuff online, i stumbled across this page created by a pimi.

his name is steve mcdowell and a watered down version of his story was published in the watchtower https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150701/bad-to-worse-life-story/.

however, this version, he says, is the full version.

ToesUp

Another JW misfit!!! They are a dime a dozen. Great post.

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new JW Online Bible Study Lessons

by neat blue dog in

has anybody seen the new online bible study yet, just posted yesterday i believe?

it's the first thing you see now when going to the home page.

the online bible study lessons on jw.org are free, have no obligation, and are easy to use.

ToesUp

Who the heck needs to go to the KH or out in field serve us anymore. You can do everything online! It's preparing the rank and file to hide out in their bunker and wait for the asserians to show up. lol

Paranoid much! lol

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Awesome, Awesome Report! Wait till you see the end of it!

by cha ching in

beccah hendrickson of wgal comes thru again!

a fabulous interview with barbara anderson, all the pieces of the puzzle are coming together!

watch out watchtower!

ToesUp

Excellent! Thank you Barbara Anderson for all you do!!!

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Brave Doctor Saves the Life of a JW Infant

by Lee Elder in

how a brave intern saved the life of a jehovah's witness infant by ignoring the wishes of the parents and administering a life saving blood transfusion.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdf9j2wpj14&feature=youtu.be.

ToesUp

Great interview!!! Now we all know why WT doesn't want it's members to research. Too much truth to be found!

Glad this young girl escaped and started living her life.

We have watched JW's home school their children and them put them in Bethel or Pioneer and they can not function in the world. It is sad! I hope more and more young people see through this cult!!!