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  May 2019 child abuse WT

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the new study edition watchtower is up, and most of it is devoted to child abuse damage control.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-may-2019/.

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  ToesUp

  The child abuse is being mentioned a bit too much in JW land. Damage control, that is all it is.

  No 2 witnesses required if a man or a woman are seen leaving someones residence (assuming they spent the night together). Elders will sit outside of someones home to catch those ones. Hypocrisy at it's best.

  NOTHING will ever change with this cult.

  "Who have the responsibility to protect children from harm? Parents do. "

  WT will ALWAYS lay the blame on the rank and file. NOTHING IS EVER THEIR FAULT!!! SIGN OF TRUE NARCISSISTS!
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  Shunning Hath Begunith

  by Solzhenitsyn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my spouse assumed that being honest would feel liberating.

  appointments were made with pimi parents to let them know of the decision to no longer be a jw.

  before the tall nonfat latte at starbucks was half drunk and after her parents asked several direct questions, they stood up, hugged her and said "well this is goodbye, return to jehovah and we'll pick up right where we left off, we love you," and walked out the door.

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  "There doesn`t appear to be any consistency in the treatment we receive when we leave."

  Great point. We have family that still speaks to us. We have been 100% honest with them ALL. We basically DA'd ourselves verbally.

  It depends on the circumstances. Some family relies heavily on my spouse and I. My spouse is very handy on fixing things and smart as far as business. They come to him often to solve their "issues." lol Maybe they realize they would loose that source if they shun us.

  Some other family members seem to want NOTHING to do with us.

  Like tosca said "no consistency."

  
  
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  Daily Text - 1/30/19

  by Jidders in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the love of the greater number will grow cold.​—matt.

  24:12. i read the daily text today, thoughts on a scripture that does seem to be somewhat fulfilled with the increase in atheism and alternative religions?

  it had definitely been going on back then but is it a general assumption?.

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  Yep...the love of the greater number of JW's is certainly cooling off!!
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  Shunning Hath Begunith

  by Solzhenitsyn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my spouse assumed that being honest would feel liberating.

  appointments were made with pimi parents to let them know of the decision to no longer be a jw.

  before the tall nonfat latte at starbucks was half drunk and after her parents asked several direct questions, they stood up, hugged her and said "well this is goodbye, return to jehovah and we'll pick up right where we left off, we love you," and walked out the door.

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  I am so sorry that you both are going through this. It is cold and hurts like hell.

  "makes it so much more clear we are doing the right thing." You are spot on with that.

  Give her time and let her process it all. Lots of love from you will be her biggest asset.
  
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Called At My Door

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  last saturday morning, i answered a knock at my door to see a man standing next to a young boy who handed me a pamphlet posing the question, "how do you view the bible?

  would you say it is (1) a book of human wisdom?

  (2) a book of myths and legends?

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  Great job Roger!

  I hope you count YOUR field service time. lol

  They thought they were going to teach you a thing or two but were oh so wrong. I love it!!!
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  Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Ever Do Anything For Anyone But Themselves?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was thinking of how witnesses were always admonished to take care of their own before they should ever help a worldly neighbor.

  i don’t think they ever do anything for the community unless it’s a benefit to them..

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  I don't think our JW family knows any of their neighbors. They do not reach out to any "worldly" people, unless they can convert them. JW's are wonderful at dehumanizing people.
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  "Kingdom Rhapsody"...WTF???

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just cant begin to express my reactions to this....just watch it right through and see what i mean..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poxpsj5s4q4.

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  Well, they cleaned the Boy up and made him a cult member!! That's what it's all about!

  We don't recognize what we were born into either.
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  I am a proud Jehovah's Witness Defender

  by Matthew Jefferson in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my name is matthew j and i have just ended my study with the jehovah's witnesses.

  no, i did not stop studying because i believe the jehovah's witnesses are a 'cult', i left due to the minor beliefs that i hold that remain separate from the organization.

  i called my elder who is still an amazing man and great counselor, affirming that i do not wish to continue my studying.

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  "And yet you wont join."
  

  Good point PE.
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  I am a proud Jehovah's Witness Defender

  by Matthew Jefferson in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my name is matthew j and i have just ended my study with the jehovah's witnesses.

  no, i did not stop studying because i believe the jehovah's witnesses are a 'cult', i left due to the minor beliefs that i hold that remain separate from the organization.

  i called my elder who is still an amazing man and great counselor, affirming that i do not wish to continue my studying.

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  ToesUp

  "As seen, it is clear that no, they will not 'shun' me for my leaving the studies"

  Glad you escaped. You should see what your family does to you when you are honest with them and decide to leave the organization. We are experiencing this at this very moment.

  I'm happy for you, I truly am but there are some people on this forum who are experiencing something VERY different and it hurts.
  
  
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  How Would You Help A JW. Recognize They Do Not Have The Truth?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  every witness says they are “ in the truth”.

  that expression implies that what they say is the “truth “.

  how could you help a witness understand that they clearly do not have “the truth “?.

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  ToesUp

  "I think many Witnesses stay in for social reasons. For them there’s no where else to go."
  

  I'm with minimus on this one. Our family sees the abuse and hypocrisy, we just think it is too painful for them to make an exit. The thought of being completely alone in the 60's and 70's is too much to bear. WT is a social club that gives them the warm and fuzzy feeling of belonging somewhere. Without WT, they have NO ONE to tell them how to think, act and believe. They have to let the Panda's, resurrection and hope go out the window!!!