Posts by Tenacious

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Governing Body perks

by Lostandfound in

i had heard that gb members flew first class, does anyone know if this is so?.

also, bethel living accommodation, do they have same standard as all bethelites or do they get luxury quarters.. same for cars, are they provided luxury cars as was once the case?.

or are they all sharing in the downsizing, who cooks for them, cleans and does laundry.

Tenacious

I do know many of the older GB members shared rooms with other r&f.

But it's really not about the perks but rather the power they wield that can be intoxicating.

Kings have killed for much less.

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Hello, I'm new here too!

by redpilltwice in

jw
friends

hi everybody, 1st post here.

20 years jw, elder for 6 years, regular pioneer for 3 years, have always been following the 2012 candace conti abuse case with much interest, especially since the case suddenly disappeared from www.watchtower.com's news section (thanks brother j. r. brown, office of public information, because it led me to "worldly" websites for more info), leading to more and more dissatisfaction , leading to jwfacts, jwsurvey, ad1914, wtdocuments etc., leading to my awakening about 4 months ago, now fading faster and faster to zero meetings and zero field service...and you know what?

it feels good!.

Tenacious

Hello redpilltwice.

Welcome to the nut house.

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Half of the cong was dancing last night

by StarTrekAngel in

so went to the meeting last night.

i had not been to one since before the holiday break (3 weeks ago).

besides, it was our first meeting in the new format.

Tenacious

I skipped the meeting. I don't think I could stomach the glee happy faces of experiencing the new format for the first time.

I would rather take a hot poker up my.....well you guys get the point.

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A Sister Stops the CO's Bullying

by Simon Templar in

we had the co a few weeks ago.

i waited a few weeks for time to pass to post.

we now have a new co. he started in september and his first visit to our congo was a little while ago.

Tenacious

Hi Simon Templar.

Please keep them coming.

I've noticed that the Baby Boomers and some remaining from the Greatest Generation have a short fuse when it comes to GB or Overseer shenanigans. They've been through it and then some and sadly many of them are resentful for the predicament they find themselves in. Paradise was promised decades ago and instead of planting and watering their spacious yards in the New World, they are humping it out in field service weather and health be damned. Many of them living off of the handouts from those who were smart enough to not buy the Cadillac but instead bought the Buick.

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Hello, this is my first post

by noralee in

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friends

hello, this is my first post, i would like to introduce myself and say thank you to every one on this forum, you have been a lifeline to me these last few years.. i had been a jw for 30 years when i walked away a few years ago disgusted by the treatment victims of child abuse, domestic abuse and rape receive from the wtbts.. at first i thought it was a local problem, elders personal opinions, the way they handled the situations, imperfect men etc., until i checked out jehovahs witnesses and child abuse/domestic abuse online.

that's when i realized they had the same modus operandi worldwide.

that led me here, tbuo this forum, and then to crisis of conscience, jw facts, watchtower documents, jw survey, old watchtower literature and cd s, reading a couple of steve hassans books, and more recently exiting the jw cult.. the feelings of shock, betrayal, anger at the wtbts, angry with myself for being so gullible, depression, reflection, loneliness, have taken their toll.

Tenacious

Welcome noralee.

I wish you and your family the very best.

As members we never come to the realization of just how toxic the Witness community truly is until we put down our JW outfit and look back at it objectively.

Then we come to realize just how intoxicated we were and even then it's hard to believe we were intoxicated to begin with.

I can certainly understand how you felt. I believe we all went through that stage of depression, loneliness, and anger. Some of us came out fine, some of us not so much.

I invite you to PM me anytime you need a listening ear.

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Hello, this is my first post

by noralee in

jw
friends

hello, this is my first post, i would like to introduce myself and say thank you to every one on this forum, you have been a lifeline to me these last few years.. i had been a jw for 30 years when i walked away a few years ago disgusted by the treatment victims of child abuse, domestic abuse and rape receive from the wtbts.. at first i thought it was a local problem, elders personal opinions, the way they handled the situations, imperfect men etc., until i checked out jehovahs witnesses and child abuse/domestic abuse online.

that's when i realized they had the same modus operandi worldwide.

that led me here, tbuo this forum, and then to crisis of conscience, jw facts, watchtower documents, jw survey, old watchtower literature and cd s, reading a couple of steve hassans books, and more recently exiting the jw cult.. the feelings of shock, betrayal, anger at the wtbts, angry with myself for being so gullible, depression, reflection, loneliness, have taken their toll.

Tenacious

Welcome noralee.

I wish you and your family the very best.

As members we never come to the realization of just how toxic the Witness community truly is until we put down our JW outfit and look back at it objectively.

Then we come to realize just how intoxicated we were and even then it's hard to believe we were intoxicated to begin with.

I can certainly understand how you felt. I believe we all went through that stage of depression, loneliness, and anger. Some of us came out fine, some of us not so much.

I invite you to PM me anytime you need a listening ear.

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It amazes me...

by punkofnice in

..to think about how the congregations actually function....even down to the individual level.. the biggest bully on the boe (or his wife), controls the show.. ones within the congregation are treated like they're dirt and still they return.

stockholm syndrome?.

i've heard ones say that 'jehovah(tm) will sort it all out.

Tenacious

The GB have conditioned the minds of members to believe without a doubt that they are God, represent God, and speak for God. The GB no longer openly admit this but if you notice in the literature and talks, all the praise and credit is given to Jehovah for the information being disseminated, spoken, printed, preached, and spread. Hence the name Jehovah's Witnesses. The line has become blurred and in the member's mind they can no longer differentiate between God and the GB. There is no difference, they are one in the same. Let me give you an example of how the GB uses this sinister tactic. The recent release of the tract "Return to Jehovah". Notice the wording? In effect, they are saying it, without actually saying it, that the member so long as they remain outside of the Organization, they have no relationship with God. Quite sinister, right? And those members that are much older and have too much to lose, family whatnot, and entire social life revolves around the witness community, what options do you think they'll choose? Hope this helps.

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Geoffrey Jackson and the Australian Royal Commission's timing of events

by Tenacious in

i'm not sure why i was thinking this but does anyone else find it an incredibly rare coincidence that geoffrey jackson just so happened to be in australia attending to his father when the arc happen to be at the exact stage for him to be deposed as a witness?

what are the chances of him being in the country at that precise moment?.

divine intervention?

Tenacious

I'm not sure why I was thinking this but does anyone else find it an incredibly rare coincidence that Geoffrey Jackson just so happened to be in Australia attending to his father when the ARC happen to be at the exact stage for him to be deposed as a witness? What are the chances of him being in the country at that precise moment?

Divine intervention? Aligning of the stars? Snowing in Miami, Florida?

*Don't, no, no, back away from the keyboard, place your hands by your side and proceed to leave the room...cofty!!!

Just kidding mate.

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Have we become what we despise so much?

by Tenacious in

the majority of members who tend to join this forum have been hurt possibly even traumatized sometimes to the point of wanting to end their lives.

upon joining the forum, new members are welcomed with open arms, welcome messages start pouring in, "likes" are freely given, a false sense of security is promoted where a member is free to speak his mind without having to worry about the wt gestapo.

again, similar to how potential converts are welcomed and "love bombed" upon entering a kh for the first time.

Tenacious

You know cofty, your good fella. You're passionate about what you believe in and I respect that although I would go about it a bit differently..

As a matter of fact, I'm going to go back and read your position on evolution.

The way I see things is, if the Bible is true, it will stand up to close scrutiny. The same with evolution.

Good day mate.

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Have we become what we despise so much?

by Tenacious in

the majority of members who tend to join this forum have been hurt possibly even traumatized sometimes to the point of wanting to end their lives.

upon joining the forum, new members are welcomed with open arms, welcome messages start pouring in, "likes" are freely given, a false sense of security is promoted where a member is free to speak his mind without having to worry about the wt gestapo.

again, similar to how potential converts are welcomed and "love bombed" upon entering a kh for the first time.

Tenacious

cofty wrote:
Bloody hell it's like being back at school. Grow up

That's it!

I'm telling on you!!