I know for a fact that Gary Breaux did this same thing. It's not a coincidence.
Yeah, that is one of things that caught my attention when I saw some of the first JW broadcasts.
The weird way they positioned their hands over the bible.
okay i'll admit that what i'm about to ask is a little silly.
this is the kind of stuff that crosses over into tinfoil hat territory, but you can't help but notice it.. did anyone else see gary breaux in this month's broadcast doing that weird "hand diamond" thing over his bible?
he was also wearing a pinky ring.
I know for a fact that Gary Breaux did this same thing. It's not a coincidence.
Yeah, that is one of things that caught my attention when I saw some of the first JW broadcasts.
The weird way they positioned their hands over the bible.
according to mathew 6:9 jesus instructed his followers in, vs. 9 " you must pray, then this way "our father in the heavens,let your name be sanctified ..... which rank & file jehovah`s witnesses have been led to believe for the past 140 or so years is to make a personal name of god namely jehovah known to all of the world ,because as they have so loudly professed christendom has kept that name away from the general public.. not true ,raymundus martinus a spanish catholic monk of the 13th-14th century first coined that name for god and it has been used in and on churches throughout christendom in the world ever since.. true christendoms emphasis has been on witnessing about jesus christ which is what the new testament is all about,not jehovah god, but jesus christ .
phillipians 2 :9-11. in the new testament ,( cgs ) jesus christ is never recorded as saying the personal name of god ever.. " " none of the apostles are ever recorded as saying the personal name of god ever.. " " none of his disciples are ever recorded as saying the personal name of god ever.. the new testament ,christian greek scriptures are all about bearing witness about jesus christ and after his time of bringing back people under his kingdom will he turn then it back over to his father, a thousand years when his rule is finished.. that is the message of the"kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures" published by the wtb&ts ,says..
If God the Father wanted His name to be exalted He could have easily preserved it just like He did with THE ENTIRE BIBLE. It would be stupid to say God had the ability to preserve His Son's name just not His. But the JW false argument and those that agree with the exalting of the Father's name is the reason why He did it. The whole Bible is about His Son not Him. It would be even STUPIDER to think the Father needs to hear His name to make sure you are praying to Him. How comical is that?
So what did Jesus mean when he said YOUR NAME BE SANCTIFIED?
It meant for His name to remain pure and clean or spotless. So how was this to be accomplished?
By people obeying His Son! His Son came in His Father's name! Because Jesus came in the name that His Father gave Him which literally translates "God is Savior or God saves."
When the Vice President visits another country they come representing (i.e. the U.S.A. i.e. the President) his boss the President and all that he stands for which is the country as a whole. Disobeying or attacking the VP would be the same as doing it to the one who he represents. So when Jesus came to earth He came in His own name but representing His Father and all He stood for. That is what is meant by coming in "the name" of His Father! Otherwise, would Philippians 2:9 make sense about the name of Jesus?
Moreover, the name Jah is not a shortened version of jehovah. It is the first three letters (no "J" back then but you get the point) of God the Father's proper first name which is Jahweh. Even the GB admits to sticking to "tradition" about the proper name of God the Father instead of reverting to His real name which is Jahweh not jehovah. So much for caring about using God's real name. But they stick to "jehovah" because that is the Masonic version for the devils name. The name jehovah is used by satanists when worshiping the devil.
When a person says "Hallelujah" they are in essence saying "Praise be to God" but in reality they are saying "Praise be to Jah" for HalleluJAH.
okay i'll admit that what i'm about to ask is a little silly.
this is the kind of stuff that crosses over into tinfoil hat territory, but you can't help but notice it.. did anyone else see gary breaux in this month's broadcast doing that weird "hand diamond" thing over his bible?
he was also wearing a pinky ring.
They are Masons and the diamond represents something (Dallas Canada explains it I believe) so they will show the sign so other Masons can see it and recognize it. It's all about hiding in plain sight.
Which is why they also put the diamond on the bible on the website.
its the smaller hand book and fragile due to the acid over time.
looking to go though it as little as possible so if anyone knows what pages have the most crazy things i would appreciate it.
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Man, I wish I could get a hold of one. Where did you find yours?
I've been trying to locate an original one and also an old Trinity brochure.
As far as the quotes, I'm not sure but you can probably find some right off the bat.
i spent a few days recently on holiday in the town where i grew up.
my overriding feeling was that i should be going round knocking on doors, searching out 45+ year olds and apologising to them for telling them that the end of the world as we know it would in all likelihood be coming before the turn of the century, and if not very soon after (cue picture in the live forever book).
thank god no one paid me much attention back then.
When I come across old territories even some where I had "studies" I always feel the same way.
Just that guilt trip we get from knowing how stupid and gullible we really were.
No, but seriously, why aren't you out there knocking doors? J/K.
The WTS is a shinning example of how one can exploit human ignorance and emotions to create wealth and power.
Finkelstein nailed it.
The level of mind conditioning is so deep for the average JW that the WTS can do and say what they please and the members will ask if there's anything else they need to do.
What sad condition to live in.
both the june and july broadcasts featured sections about serving where the need is greater.
as i recall, my wife watches them as i hover in the background, india and thailand have both been heavily featured.
next, i hear some friends talking about how they are thinking of moving to india.
The leaders are targeting third world countries with little to no internet connectivity or availability.
Which basically means they are not very well informed about the JW crimes the world around. And once suckered into the JW cult they'll be even less inclined to research anything anti-JW.
It's the U.S. pre-1990s internet where they are ripe for the picking.
Check out this Washington Post article (here) and map of countries where internet is rarely available due to infrastructure and abject poverty.
i got this pm from edgar james adams.
hello my fellow brethren!.
i am trying to educate people about the positive influence that jehovah's witnesses can have on humanity and on my local community in general!
Foreign scammer who was stupid enough to think the site is pro-JW.
I say 'foreign' because had he lived in the U.S. he would know there's only one official JW site and anything outside of this are frowned upon.
well, i finally made an account.
i’ve been lurking on here for four or so years, enjoying the debates and experiences of all of you.
it really helped in that initial year after i woke up, when the frustration and betrayal felt strongest.
Stay strong mentally and know that YOU ARE RIGHT.
Your parents reaction was more or less a programmed response after repeated exposure to false JW teachings.
“look at what Satan’s done to you.”
Even if what you said is true, they will always side with what their mind knows to be the ONLY truth. It's just the way the mind works and JW leaders know this. Don't take it personal but your parents can't see anything right now.
I congratulate you for standing up for truth.
were you so indoctrinated that you just couldn’t leave?
was it due to family pressure?
was it your friendships that you didn’t want to lose?
@ NN: Funny right? When she would say that I just scoffed at how deluded and manipulated the mind could get.
Some of the first books I read were CoC and some hard to find Duane Magnani books. I think I read CoC online but the Magnani books I had to actually buy. I searched high and low for all books WT related. I also read Apostles of Denial which is an excellent book. That one I read online as well.
Today, yes, like you and thousands of other board members I also ask myself:
How could I have believed that?
@ Vidiot: Yeah, you're right. I strongly suspect many of the friends know something is off but would rather continue taking the crap and saying "umm, yummy, please no more" (quote from film Greedy) than to have to turn their world upside down and stop being made a stooge. Some people just have more sand to stand up for truth than others.