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  New light scripture??

  by Daisychaindream in

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  i've seen it mentioned in a few posts and i didn't want to high jack!

  can anyone explain what this is about?.

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  Has anyone ever attempted to study with the witnesses....

  by Tenacious in

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  ....using a pseudonym never actually meeting them perhaps by internet, phone, letter, or email?.

  i feel like doing this and asking direct questions but nothing that would arouse suspicion.

  the newest jw video advocates this option.. this would be a good experiment in an effort to get into the thinking mind of how different witnesses approach a study and if i'm lucky i may get either an elder or ms.. thoughts?.

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  ....using a pseudonym never actually meeting them perhaps by internet, phone, letter, or email?

  I feel like doing this and asking direct questions but nothing that would arouse suspicion. The newest jw video advocates this option.

  This would be a good experiment in an effort to get into the thinking mind of how different witnesses approach a study and if I'm lucky I may get either an elder or ms.

  Thoughts?
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  'Trusted' Jehovah’s Witness ‘raped and sexually abused girls’

  by cliff in

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  2. child-abuse

  'trusted' jehovahs witness raped and sexually abused girls.

  court: barry furlong arrives at bournemouth crown court.

  first published tuesday 9 december 2014 in news by jane reader.

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  This man sexually molested the innocent over a period of 17 years and serving as an Elder?

  How was this possible in Jehovah's spirit-directed organization? Oh wait! It's not his organization!!!!
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  Glaring discrepency in Blood Doctrine

  by kjg132 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found an article on the dr. sears website about the benefits of breasfeeding.

  according to the article it says: "a drop of breastmilk contains about one million white blood cells.

  " it also says "colostrum also contains higher amounts of white blood cells..........than mature milk.

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  I second Aroq. The Bible doesn't make a distinction of what parts of the blood can be transfused.

  The WTS would like to have it both ways. Soon they will change the doctrine and the GB will attribute it to Jehovah's chariot moving along.

  Sorry pieces of horse manure.
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  TROUBLED MAN EXPOSES ELDERS CULT MENTALITY IN DOVER UK

  by raymond frantz in

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  2. scandals

  troubled man exposes elders cult mentality in dover uk.

  (watch the video till the end).

  breaking in to kingdom halls and disturbing peaceful meetings is hardly the way to go when it comes to positive activism .nevertheless these incidents seem to become more frequent recently as the watchtower vehemently refuses to engage in a meaningful way with the problems of policy and doctrine that seem to trouble many jehovahs witnesses .that, coupled with the ever extending ex- jehovahs witnesses community and their harsh disfellowshiping practises is creating a new era where disturbances of that short will only become more frequent.

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  It's hard to watch this video. I truly feel the pain of this man. I can identify myself with him and so can the majority of you guys. Man, its heart breaking.

  It's completely obvious this man believes in Christ and Jehovah and is all but screaming for help.

  Picture this Biblical scenario:

  Leon hears from the townspeople and relatives that the man they call the Christ is coming into town sometime today. He can't help but get excited so he prepares himself and then he waits. There over a hill he starts to see a large crowd of people and as the minutes go by he starts to hear the commotion of the crowd. Now the crowd is ever closer and finally he is able to see the Christ surrounded by what seems to be a wall of men. Leon acts quickly and jumps up and runs towards the center of town. There he encounters more people waiting to speak or catch a glimpse of this man they have heard wonderful things about. Leon somehow manages to only get to within 25 feet from where the procession will be walking by. The time has come and Leon is determined to speak with Jesus. Seeing Jesus being mobbed, Leon kneels down and rushes toward Jesus in a fervent attempt to reach him. Indeed he does. Then he says:

  Have mercy on me my Lord! See that I'm a man who has lost his family to false teachings of the Pharisees. Please help me! The Pharisees are extreme and rigid in their interpretation of the Law. Please have mercy on me and my family my Lord! I beg of you, have mercy and save us from these hypocrites!

  Being able to discern the man's sincerity, Jesus embraces him and tenderly touches Leon's head and blesses him allowing an overwhelming sense of peace and calm to come over Leon. At this, Leon rises and embraces Jesus like a Father does at which Jesus says, "Go Leon, you now have peace, you now have love, let your family now embrace you for I have made it so."
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  Active JW's and JW Lurkers- Especially JW Defenders and Believers: A Few Questions For You

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while there are not too many currently defending the watchtower in this discussion forum, it happens from time to time.

  and quite often, there may be new people and lurkers reading these discussions.

  i just wanted you to ponder these questions.

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  Constructive criticism is better than direct attacks on someone who more than likely is fighting their own inner feelings to abandon a well entrenched fear and subsequent mental healing.

  Just my thoughts. Good looking out Vidiot.
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  WT Society holds EXTREME Responsibility for 1975 and False Expectations

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  however- many jw's who have come into the jw organization from like 1985 forward virtually may have no knowledge of the wt society's 1975 debacle and false predictions of the end times or armageddon predictions.

  just like in in the book 1984 by george orwell the wt society has a way of not only erasing it's history so no newer witnesses will be aware of their false predictions, but also they are re-writing their history as if those false predictions never happened.. so for those of you here who may have never read or heard of how whipped up into an emotional frenzy witnesses were in the years just before 1975 by the wt society claiming the end was any day now- this threads for you.

  to see the pressure that was put on jw's by the wt society to get rid of everything before " armageddon " .

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  "TENACIOUS- Good point. The WT Society's EXTREME responsibility about deceiving it's JW members regarding a fake " time of the end " - becomes much more irresponsible as the years pass by with nothing ever happening. 8 million people are being duped and deceived into believing something that will NEVER happen while giving their lives to a criminal , fraudulent organization like the WT Society. It's disgusting, especially for older people in their 80's or 90's who have wasted their whole lives living for a fantasy or pipedream . Peace out, Mr. Flipper"

  Yes indeed Mr. Flipper. I'm still trying to get my wife and daughter to realize the far reaching impact the WT has on so many unsuspecting and many sincere Christians.

  I just wish she would wake up tomorrow morning and realize what she's really a part of. I need patience and determination.
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  Help with Magazine Article Regarding 1975 and Jesus

  by Tenacious in

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  2. bible

  hello to all.. i need help finding a quote written in an article not sure if it was awake or watchtower.. it may have been the years 68' or 69 but i remember distinctly that it mentioned 1975 was approaching very quickly and that it was not time to be fooling around with jesus' words about no one knowing the date or the hour.. thanks!.

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  Never mind guys, I actually found it. It's the 1968 August 15 Watchtower under the heading "1975!...And Far Beyond!

  Here's the actual quote:

  "One thing is absolutely certain, Bible chronology reinforced with fulfilled Bible prophecy shows that six thousand years of man’s existence will soon be up, yes, within this generation! (Matt. 24:34) This is, therefore, no time to be indifferent and complacent. This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that “concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matt. 24:36) To the contrary, it is a time when one should be keenly aware that the end of this system of things is rapidly coming to its violent end. Make no mistake, it is sufficient that the Father himself knows both the “day and hour”!"

  The highlighted part is the perhaps the most incredible words I have ever seen come out of Brooklyn. There's actually no words to describe this.
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  Help with Magazine Article Regarding 1975 and Jesus

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello to all.. i need help finding a quote written in an article not sure if it was awake or watchtower.. it may have been the years 68' or 69 but i remember distinctly that it mentioned 1975 was approaching very quickly and that it was not time to be fooling around with jesus' words about no one knowing the date or the hour.. thanks!.

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  Hello to all.

  I need help finding a quote written in an article not sure if it was Awake or Watchtower.

  It may have been the years 68' or 69 but I remember distinctly that it mentioned 1975 was approaching very quickly and that it was not time to be fooling around with Jesus' words about no one knowing the date or the hour.

  Thanks!
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  Elders removed in Northern PA. Congregation

  by ToesUp in

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  2. friends

  a close family member just informed me what happened during their last c.o.

  visit.

  this occurred 3 months ago.

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  Sounds like it may have been a money issue coupled with a lack of JC action where the WTS can be held legally.

  The WTS has probably made it known to all of their CO's that money is what matters and spirituality comes a distant second.