I heard about this on the BBC this morning. They usually give an hour of BBC news here in the states.
The first thing I thought of was 'Jehovah's Witnesses'.
Boy oh boy oh boy. Can't wait to see JW's take the perp walk.
about time..... "teachers, councillors and social workers in england and wales who fail to protect children could face up to five years in jail under new proposals.. the new measures, being unveiled by the prime minister, would see the crime of "wilful neglect" extended to cover children's social care and education.. there would also be unlimited fines for individuals and organisations shown to have let children down.".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31691061.
when they so cleverly predicted to us all that the world would turn against them, something that has not happened despite over a 100 years of taunting power and opposing religious figures, now it is likely to begin, they failed to mention that it would be due to rampant paedophilia in 'gods earthly organisation'.what a wholesome enviroment to grow up in and raise a child.. we have heard it said many times here that the jw's won't last as they are so entrenched in trends, so opposite to modern human progress, culture and society, they stand out as more extremist and inhumane by the year, mocked regularly in the media now.
I heard about this on the BBC this morning. They usually give an hour of BBC news here in the states.
The first thing I thought of was 'Jehovah's Witnesses'.
Boy oh boy oh boy. Can't wait to see JW's take the perp walk.
i'm hearing all these comments about how wt dosnt care, is arrogant, unapologetic and is covering it up.
hey and i agree with these comments to a point but as i'm no lawyer and don't know american law what would be the implications if wt did came out and admitted it's errors.
i'm talking front cover wt here.
The first reason would be legal considering their admittance of guilt. This can vary depending on the locality.
The second reason would be their holy status or credibility as being God's mouthpiece.
The third reason would be the loss of absolute power and control they have over every JW.
The final reason would be their free lunch would be over. Time to get a roomie.
i'm having a hard time reconciling how such a loving and merciful god would require someone as innocent and helpless as a child or an adult for that matter, in order to properly establish a claim sexual abuse, having the need to produce another witness that actually witnessed the abuse.
how ludicrous is this?
how can the holy bible, the divine word of god, make a requirement such as this?
@ OneEyedJoe - that one rule for rape is in the Mosaic Law so it doesn't apply with the new Law of the Christ but I understand your point. I do know that if you are raped one needs to scream in order not to be DF'd.
Honestly, I hope that we are on Earth for a reason and that a God does exist. Otherwise, it's a short life we have inherited when compared to other species now living.
see jws have said time and again jesus died once for all time... a quote from hebrews.
okay rule out humn-like aliens what about animals plants and microbes... i once had a hot fight with an elder when i still believed that here was no reason to doubt alien animals etc.
yet not based on any wt article witnesses reject this often.. lets suppose say in a month microbes are found on ceres (i doubt it will happen but let's roll with it) they are living as much as our cells are and reporduce... okay what would mother say in the magazines when millions of jehovah's witnesses demand to know why jehovah created microbes on a dwarf planet?.
I've been reading up on the Panspermia effect/theory so the possibility is not entirely illogical.
i'm having a hard time reconciling how such a loving and merciful god would require someone as innocent and helpless as a child or an adult for that matter, in order to properly establish a claim sexual abuse, having the need to produce another witness that actually witnessed the abuse.
how ludicrous is this?
how can the holy bible, the divine word of god, make a requirement such as this?
I'm having a hard time reconciling how such a loving and merciful God would require someone as innocent and helpless as a child or an adult for that matter, in order to properly establish a claim sexual abuse, having the need to produce another witness that actually witnessed the abuse. How ludicrous is this? How can the Holy Bible, the divine word of God, make a requirement such as this? Moreover, why would Jesus repeat such a requirement? How could God not have seen how this one rule would put so many children and people all over the world in danger? Am I missing something here?
This is one reason why I sometimes have a hard time believing the validity of the Bible.
my name is russ, i'm 40 years old, from the uk, and i left the jws nearly 5 years ago.
i've been a member of the yuku board throughout that time, so there are probably some on here who know me already.
there seems to be more activity over here at the moment, so i thought i'd pop in and say hi.i was raised as a jw, started questioning it when i was 16, but there was no internet back then (well, no www anyway) so i got sucked right in and got baptized when i was 18. auxiliary pioneered on and off for a couple of years, then became a ministerial servant.
Welcome! I truly hope you can find or have found inner peace with yourself. I know having a spouse that is a JW can be frustrating but worry not. Your wife will eventually see the organization for what it really is. The best defense to use when discussions come up is the organization's own offense. Use their own publications, at least the study articles, and simply ask her to view it with an objective common sense mind approach. She'll come around hopefully.
All the best from the deep south in the U.S.
i am 6th generation.
i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.
i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.
did anyone go to meeting sunday?
i'm curious about how the 'we must be holy' watchtower went and what the comments were like, especially in regards to disfellowshipped family members.
I turned to my wife during the magazine study to ask her why Jesus asked his disciples to symbolically drink his blood yet the WTS asks it's members to abstain physically. Symbolic versus Literal = same thing.
The look on her face was priceless.
10 " any israelite or any alien living among them who eats any bloodi will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from his people.
12 therefore i say to the israelites, "none of you may eat blood, nor may an alien living among you eat blood.
15 'anyone, whether native-born or alien, who eats anything found dead or torn by wild animals must wash his clothes and bathe with water, and he will be ceremonially unclean till evening; then he will be clean.
i was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.
this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.
it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.
This one's easy to answer.
The Europeans aren't as gullible as their U. S. counterparts.