Posts by Tenacious

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The REAL Meaning Behind The Annual Meeting.

by Brother Mike in

october 5th, 2013. .

i woke up early i the morning.

hopped in the car, and drove my way to jersey city assembly hall.

Tenacious

The very first thing I noticed was how Losch was using the newly minted Bible BEFORE even introducing it.

If we were to look up a text which I believe we did, if that specific text was 'simplified' or 'revised' then we would not be able to follow along. Perhaps they missed that very important point and how he should have waited along with the rest of us to get our new Bible.

My apologies. I forget being the lowly peasant servant that I am (was) that we come a distant second to anyone with a title but especially the GB.

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Jehovah's Witness Found Dead at Watchtower Training Center Florida

by jwleaks in

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news report.

man found dead at jehovah's witness facility.

the daytona beach news-journal.

Tenacious

This is very sad. Especially considering this man had no medical issues and wasn't on any meds.

If I had to guess I would say either a brain aneurysm or massive heart attack. Either one triggered by the immense pressure given by these free labor loving maggots who seek to exploit emotional human weakness with their false interpretation of God's Holy word.

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Let it begin....

by snare&racket in

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about time..... "teachers, councillors and social workers in england and wales who fail to protect children could face up to five years in jail under new proposals.. the new measures, being unveiled by the prime minister, would see the crime of "wilful neglect" extended to cover children's social care and education.. there would also be unlimited fines for individuals and organisations shown to have let children down.".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31691061.

when they so cleverly predicted to us all that the world would turn against them, something that has not happened despite over a 100 years of taunting power and opposing religious figures, now it is likely to begin, they failed to mention that it would be due to rampant paedophilia in 'gods earthly organisation'.what a wholesome enviroment to grow up in and raise a child.. we have heard it said many times here that the jw's won't last as they are so entrenched in trends, so opposite to modern human progress, culture and society, they stand out as more extremist and inhumane by the year, mocked regularly in the media now.

Tenacious

I heard about this on the BBC this morning. They usually give an hour of BBC news here in the states.

The first thing I thought of was 'Jehovah's Witnesses'.

Boy oh boy oh boy. Can't wait to see JW's take the perp walk.

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What are the legal and financial ramifications to apologize for abuse issues. Anyone know.

by joe134cd in

i'm hearing all these comments about how wt dosnt care, is arrogant, unapologetic and is covering it up.

hey and i agree with these comments to a point but as i'm no lawyer and don't know american law what would be the implications if wt did came out and admitted it's errors.

i'm talking front cover wt here.

Tenacious

The first reason would be legal considering their admittance of guilt. This can vary depending on the locality.

The second reason would be their holy status or credibility as being God's mouthpiece.

The third reason would be the loss of absolute power and control they have over every JW.

The final reason would be their free lunch would be over. Time to get a roomie.

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Child sexual abuse and a loving God.

by Tenacious in

i'm having a hard time reconciling how such a loving and merciful god would require someone as innocent and helpless as a child or an adult for that matter, in order to properly establish a claim sexual abuse, having the need to produce another witness that actually witnessed the abuse.

how ludicrous is this?

how can the holy bible, the divine word of god, make a requirement such as this?

Tenacious

@ OneEyedJoe - that one rule for rape is in the Mosaic Law so it doesn't apply with the new Law of the Christ but I understand your point. I do know that if you are raped one needs to scream in order not to be DF'd.

Honestly, I hope that we are on Earth for a reason and that a God does exist. Otherwise, it's a short life we have inherited when compared to other species now living.

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What would happen if life was found elsewhere?

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

see jws have said time and again jesus died once for all time... a quote from hebrews.

okay rule out humn-like aliens what about animals plants and microbes... i once had a hot fight with an elder when i still believed that here was no reason to doubt alien animals etc.

yet not based on any wt article witnesses reject this often.. lets suppose say in a month microbes are found on ceres (i doubt it will happen but let's roll with it) they are living as much as our cells are and reporduce... okay what would mother say in the magazines when millions of jehovah's witnesses demand to know why jehovah created microbes on a dwarf planet?.

Tenacious

I've been reading up on the Panspermia effect/theory so the possibility is not entirely illogical.

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Child sexual abuse and a loving God.

by Tenacious in

i'm having a hard time reconciling how such a loving and merciful god would require someone as innocent and helpless as a child or an adult for that matter, in order to properly establish a claim sexual abuse, having the need to produce another witness that actually witnessed the abuse.

how ludicrous is this?

how can the holy bible, the divine word of god, make a requirement such as this?

Tenacious

I'm having a hard time reconciling how such a loving and merciful God would require someone as innocent and helpless as a child or an adult for that matter, in order to properly establish a claim sexual abuse, having the need to produce another witness that actually witnessed the abuse. How ludicrous is this? How can the Holy Bible, the divine word of God, make a requirement such as this? Moreover, why would Jesus repeat such a requirement? How could God not have seen how this one rule would put so many children and people all over the world in danger? Am I missing something here?

This is one reason why I sometimes have a hard time believing the validity of the Bible.

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Introducing myself

by maksutov in

my name is russ, i'm 40 years old, from the uk, and i left the jws nearly 5 years ago.

i've been a member of the yuku board throughout that time, so there are probably some on here who know me already.

there seems to be more activity over here at the moment, so i thought i'd pop in and say hi.i was raised as a jw, started questioning it when i was 16, but there was no internet back then (well, no www anyway) so i got sucked right in and got baptized when i was 18. auxiliary pioneered on and off for a couple of years, then became a ministerial servant.

Tenacious

Welcome! I truly hope you can find or have found inner peace with yourself. I know having a spouse that is a JW can be frustrating but worry not. Your wife will eventually see the organization for what it really is. The best defense to use when discussions come up is the organization's own offense. Use their own publications, at least the study articles, and simply ask her to view it with an objective common sense mind approach. She'll come around hopefully.

All the best from the deep south in the U.S.

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CO has been coming to my door. Would like 1 or 2 solid and easy arguments.

by The Laser Viking in

i am 6th generation.

i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.

i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.

Tenacious

Just tell him you wore out your only shovel so you no longer accept the shit.

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Sundays Watchtower Study Jan 11th 2015

by anonread in

did anyone go to meeting sunday?

i'm curious about how the 'we must be holy' watchtower went and what the comments were like, especially in regards to disfellowshipped family members.

Tenacious

I turned to my wife during the magazine study to ask her why Jesus asked his disciples to symbolically drink his blood yet the WTS asks it's members to abstain physically. Symbolic versus Literal = same thing.

The look on her face was priceless.