Posts by Tenacious

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Question for Cofty about God and Bible defences

by slimboyfat in

i thought about sending you a pm but it might make an interesting open discussion.

i've seen you express the lack of good pro-god ex-witnesses to engage with.

i don't know about ex-witnesses, but there are a few witnesses who've written on these issues.

Tenacious

Let's wait for cofty and his rebuttal. Heck, we might get a bonus and get Viv as well.

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A Seal Ring bearing King Hezekiah's found in Jerusalem excavation, with ankh symbol and winged sun

by fulltimestudent in

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from a story in the jewish press:.

quote: "the city of david excavations of the jerusalem hebrew university on mount ophel, at the foot of the southern wall of the temple mount compound, have yielded a sensational discovery: a seal (bulla) with the name of king hezekiah (727-698 bce).".

"king hezekiahs bulla was discovered in a garbage heap that was dumped during or shortly after hezekiahs time, from a royal building that was used to store food.

Tenacious

Why are people going through my trash without permission?

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Feeling rejected

by Esmeralda001 in

just a little disclaimer: english isn't my first language (i'm from france) thus the poor writing skills.here is the situation: i'm not a jw.

however, i'm in the process of becoming one.

in fact, i'm studying with the jw's, and i'll proceed to become an unbaptized publisher as soon as i finish the first book.to make a long story short i was introduced to the truth when i was 18een.

Tenacious

Esmeralda - It may or may not have been said to you but my personal opinion would be to reassess your commitment to the Jehovah's Witnesses. Ask your study instructor to answer questions that can be posed now and not later. You appear to have a good heart and good intentions toward finding God and His Son and all that entails. You are smart and very capable and should be able to discern truth from falsity.

I strongly encourage you to visit sites like jwfacts.com.

If your study instructor or any other brother or sister tells you to avoid coming to sites like this one or sites that are critical of the Jehovah's Witnesses ask them that if their religion is the truth, nothing or no one can pollute that and the facts will always come through.

The actions from the elderette you mention is typical of many sisters in a position of prestige and/or power. You have barely scratched the surface as you will see many more actions and tactics from other Jehovah's Witnesses who claim to be spiritual yet they "prove false to its power."

Never be afraid to research the truth before you make a life-altering decision of becoming baptized as one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

You are attending a university and this, in itself, will make you look "spiritually weak" if you ever decide to become a member.

Best of luck to you.

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Why didn't Jehovah know the flood wouldn't work?

by OverlappingGeneralizations in

this has been something that is bugging me lately-.

jehovah is all knowing.

he knows that to do away with evil, he has to do away with satan.

Tenacious

I was thinking about this the other day. Specifically I was thinking how Jehovah said he was going to wipe out every single human. Yet, somehow, of the thousands upon thousands of people living then somehow Noah and his family gained God's favor?

Had Jehovah wiped everyone off the map, through who would the Messiah come from?

Questions like this drive me nuts. Yet, they plant seeds of doubt about the veracity of some Biblical stories.

What about if some passages have been completely corrupted? What if some books were purposely omitted to fit a Church narrative? What determined if a book would be included or excluded from the Canon?

Definitely something I continue to meditate and research further.

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In That Hour

by berrygerry in

looks like wt didn't like getting schooled by angus on the no-witness rape in deut.. geoff later sent in a written statement:.

329 it was suggested to mr jackson that this scripture provided the basis for the governingbody not to apply the twowitness rule in the case of sexual abuse, or that it called into question the proper foundation to the twowitness rule in the case of sexual abuse.

mrjacksons answer was to say that the jehovahs witnesses believe that there is a properfoundation to the rule because of the number of times that it is emphasised in thescriptures.607 mr jackson did not say that there is no prospect of modifying theapplication of the twowitness rule within scriptural requirements so as to make itinapplicable to cases of sexual abuse.330 in a statement provided to the royal commission after the close of the public hearing,mr jackson offered an alternative explanation of deuteronomy 22:2327 to that whichhe had accepted in oral evidence.608 in his statement mr jackson explained that themans guilt had been judged at an earlier stage in deuteronomy, and that the referencedverses dealt only with establishing guilt (or absence thereof) on the part of thewoman.609 in his statement, mr jackson did not seek to explain the reason for thedifference between his oral and written evidence as to context of deuteronomy 22:2327.331 it is submitted that there is little utility in attempting to resolve the conflict between mrjacksons oral and his subsequent written evidence on the subject of the relevance ofdeuteronomy 22:2327 to the flexibility of the twowitness rule.however, it is open tothe royal commission to note the difficulty experienced by even a member of the governing body in arriving at an interpretation of deuteronomy 22:2327 which renders it irrelevant to the application of the twowitness rule.. .

Tenacious

@ prologos - Hahaha. I never took notice of the door. That's hilarious!! LOL

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In That Hour

by berrygerry in

looks like wt didn't like getting schooled by angus on the no-witness rape in deut.. geoff later sent in a written statement:.

329 it was suggested to mr jackson that this scripture provided the basis for the governingbody not to apply the twowitness rule in the case of sexual abuse, or that it called into question the proper foundation to the twowitness rule in the case of sexual abuse.

mrjacksons answer was to say that the jehovahs witnesses believe that there is a properfoundation to the rule because of the number of times that it is emphasised in thescriptures.607 mr jackson did not say that there is no prospect of modifying theapplication of the twowitness rule within scriptural requirements so as to make itinapplicable to cases of sexual abuse.330 in a statement provided to the royal commission after the close of the public hearing,mr jackson offered an alternative explanation of deuteronomy 22:2327 to that whichhe had accepted in oral evidence.608 in his statement mr jackson explained that themans guilt had been judged at an earlier stage in deuteronomy, and that the referencedverses dealt only with establishing guilt (or absence thereof) on the part of thewoman.609 in his statement, mr jackson did not seek to explain the reason for thedifference between his oral and written evidence as to context of deuteronomy 22:2327.331 it is submitted that there is little utility in attempting to resolve the conflict between mrjacksons oral and his subsequent written evidence on the subject of the relevance ofdeuteronomy 22:2327 to the flexibility of the twowitness rule.however, it is open tothe royal commission to note the difficulty experienced by even a member of the governing body in arriving at an interpretation of deuteronomy 22:2327 which renders it irrelevant to the application of the twowitness rule.. .

Tenacious

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JW Talk

by Alive! in

was sipping my coffee, browsing here and there, and then focussed on reading here regarding arc, picked up some world news on same subject - and wondered if jw org would publish any information on their news site.. then, i flicked to jw talk - anything in their public news forum?

a newish headline 'australia and jehovah's witnesses' or something like that - i entered link - web page error, not found.

nope.

Tenacious

Those dumb ass** are in denial and couldn't tell the difference between their navel and their rectum.

I've been there and I can only take so much before I feel like I'm suffocating.

The delusional state is incredible and quite hard to take.

If the GB asked them to go home and kill themselves as the only way into paradise they'd do it!

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Singapore slashes publication bans, but not for Jehovah's Witnesses

by Tenacious in

singapore (reuters) - strait-laced singapore has slashed the number of publications it bans to 17 from a previous 257, allowing some communist and adult topics, but kept a prohibition on jehovah's witnesses publications.. adult magazines such as playboy, penthouse and hustler remain banned, as are publications by the jehovah's witnesses church produced by its watch tower bible and tract society and the international bible students association.. the church's publications sit in the banned list alongside "hardcore pornographic publications" that "depict female models in sexually suggestive poses and their genitals", the government agency said.. singapore deregistered the jehovahs witnesses and banned its publications in 1972 because the church objects to serving national service in the military or singing national anthems..

Tenacious

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Strait-laced Singapore has slashed the number of publications it bans to 17 from a previous 257, allowing some communist and adult topics, but kept a prohibition on Jehovah's Witnesses publications.

Adult magazines such as Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler remain banned, as are publications by the Jehovah's Witnesses Church produced by its Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society and the International Bible Students Association.

The church's publications sit in the banned list alongside "hardcore pornographic publications" that "depict female models in sexually suggestive poses and their genitals", the government agency said.

Singapore deregistered the Jehovah’s Witnesses and banned its publications in 1972 because the church objects to serving National Service in the military or singing national anthems.

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JWs, UFO's, demons, and the book "The Dark Gods"

by MikeHammer in

i have been looking into this issue that (many/most/all/etc) ufos are caused by demons as seems to be said by jws.

some time ago when i browsed this site i read a posting where someone recommended a book titled "the dark gods" by roberts and gilbertson (here is a link to the book at amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/dark-gods-anthony-roberts/dp/009138771x).. besides that one there are a couple of other books that i have checked (one of these is "operation trojan horse" by john keel and the other one is "a guide to the paranormal" by magnus raven).

both of these say the same thing although they approach this issue from different directions.. looking at the amazon reviews for "the dark gods" it looks like it also says the same thing but the book is out of print.

Tenacious

Who knows, Aliens could be real. Perhaps other beings have been influencing or meddling with human affairs. Maybe they created us?

This is closer to the truth about our reality than you think DD. I've always been fascinated by UFO's and just paranormal activity in general. Check this out and see if it doesn't blow your mind like it has mine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvMlUepVgbA

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Gerrit Losch Hypocritical: "Let Your Light Shine" Talk Given After His Refusal To Let His Light Shine Before Caesar In A Court Room

by Brokeback Watchtower in

losch's refusal to appear in court when subpeona'd to give testimony before a judge over his involvement in child abuse cover up and endangerment lawsuit .

i think such conduct should take away his freeness of speech and label him as a supreme hypocrite for giving such a talk about letting one light shine when he seems to be afraid to let his light shine in a court of law.

this man's hypocrisy knows no limits, and is extremely shameful.

Tenacious

Gerrit Losch is the biggest pile of excrement/feces/s**t ever produced by another human. And just in case one of your cronies trolls this site. Here it is in your native tongue:

Gerrit du scheiße sind und Ihr Tag wird kommen . Sie können , dass an die Bank zu nehmen. Du Heuchler.