Posts by Tenacious

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Bethel downsizing is still coming

by dropoffyourkeylee in

i spoke with a bethelite (non-us) last week who says that a 20-25% downsize is coming at their bethel in the fall of 2016. this is in addition to the cutbacks of 2015. more will be sent out 'to the field'..

Tenacious

I'll be happy when that b***h burns to the ground. Pardon my choice of words but only way to express it.

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So are the GB now saying that they are NOT the "faithful and discreet slave"?

by stuckinarut2 in

so can someone clarify this please?.

the claim has been made that the gb is the faithful and discreet slave.

especially was this highlighted during the agm (when the silver bible was released).. but are they now saying that this "appointment" isn't happening until the "great tribulation"?.

Tenacious

Yeah, these maggots slipped it in into the new purple kingdom book introduced at a assembly some years ago. And of course the indoctrinated JW goes home eats all that delicious spiritual food until it's time to digest it. Then he comes to the bitter part where it says his masters have not yet been appointed. What! So what does the JW do with bitter food that has been given. He curiously asks an elder about it. And the response from the imbecil also in the dark elder? He pulls out the almighty, all powerful, and thought stopping one liner: "let's wait on jehovah".

And so it continues, the never ending stupidity of your average, uneducated, irrational thinking JW window/office/home cleaner.

In all honesty, the majority of JWs are not to blame. They are merely pawns being used by the real culprits in NY.

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If Jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to Magic theme parks such as Disneyland the Magic Kingdom and not be disfellowshipped for it?

by Greybeard in

jw
friends

if jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to magic theme parks such as disney land the magic kingdom?

i grew up a jw and we all went to disney land and magic mountain.

if jehovah hates magic then why are these places not forbidden?

Tenacious

It's the same with using the Gregorian calendar, names of the week, wedding rings, bonfires, etc.

Just a wink and a nod I guess. Probably same stupid reason why Brits can sport a beard but we can't. Go figure.

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"Just don't overthink the truth"

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

so after almost a year of complete inactivity and non attendance, i ran into a nice brother from the local congregation.. after some nice chit-chat, he says "we really miss you and your family...etc...you were always the kind and supportive one, the approachable and encouraging one in the congregation.

your absence has confused so many".

i thanked him and said "oh no, no individual has stumbled us.

Tenacious

Jesus did say that "the truth" would set us free.

I think he meant the TTATT not the witness truth.

Yeah, it's actually a sight to see and witness when you run into friends and smack them with the truth and they'll just look at you dumbfounded and upset that they now know the truth. Hahaha

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Can anyone allay my suspicions?

by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

can you allay my suspicions of wt associated activity?.

during the last 3 to 4 co visits, i noticed a predeliction on the part of the ladt few co's for taking photos at fs meetings and photos of cong at end of visit.

i'm beginning to suspect that such is not because the co's have a newly found socially engaging disposition (being cool).

Tenacious

I was still very much in when we we're asked to pose for a family pic by the CO wife including our names. And at the next meeting we got the pic back with a text below stipulating who it came from, etc. I thought back then (4-5 years ago) that it was nice yet very strange. Something just didn't feel right. I guess intuition.

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The Ray Franz Saga

by snugglebunny in

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friends

i'm just curious as to how it all happened.. to explain.

many years back, before ex-jw websites, i called on a local lady in order to design an extension to her already enormous house.

she was a young, voluptuous gal, married to a much older local business man who spared little expense in order to give his young wife whatever her heart desired.. we chatted for ages.

Tenacious

It wasn't until the early 90s that I learned of Ray.

The gossip was he was trying to get only the rank and file or regular non-titled members to do the house to house preaching. Also that he was trying to subvert and take over the organization a sort of hostile takeover. At the time, I thought "wow! this is crazy. this guy is satan incarnate!". What a tangled web we weave.

Like the rest of you, it wasn't until I read CoC that everything came into focus. More so now with the testimonies from people like the Kuilan's, Ed Dunlap, and Peter Gregerson just to name a few.

Ray was a gentle soul who got railroaded by those power hungry maggots.

When I first heard about this incident I thought the GB were men in white clothing floating in mid-air reciting prayers and Jehovah's bright light shinning over them as they mentally received spiritual insight. Hahahahahaha

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disfellowshipped wife, husband still a jw

by thereishope in

i'm new here and haven't introduced myself yet, but have been lurking for the past couple of weeks and learned so much!

quick first question: if i get disfellowshipped for researching info on websites other than jw.org (the official website), how can i expect to be treated by my husband still in the truth?

ie what will he be told by the elders about how to treat me?

Tenacious

Welcome!

I don't believe surfing or reading anti-JW sites is a disfellowshipping offense. It only becomes one if you decide to share your findings with other members.

So, if you don't want any trouble with your hubby or the elders, don't mention that you do this. Keep to yourself although you may want to "wake up" family members, friends, etc.

If you want to help me wake up, ask them pointed questions to make THEM reflect and meditate on the teachings.

Best!!

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Stories From the Back Room

by xjwsrock in

(i am still a serving elder.

i have no idea how much longer i can stomach it.

timing is terrible for stepping down right now, though.

Tenacious

Thanks for the exploits. You know the saying. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. In all honesty the majority of elders get a high with these power trips.

I sit back there shocked at how these men play "God" in people's lives.

The only power elders have, is the power that is afforded them. I believe Giulio Andreotti said it best:

"Power wears out those who don't have it."

I stopped recognizing their authority a few years ago. And although I'm still a member that shows up every once in a blue moon, they are not stupid enough to even look in my direction unless it's just to say hello. They learned I'm a no nonsense kind of guy so that lesson has been taught already.

Cheers!

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Died Due To Refusing Blood Transfusion

by rrb2016 in

well, last monday my mother, a jehovah's witness since her baptism in 1968 died last week because she would not accept a blood transfusion.

she was 76 and had lung and skin cancer.

i know that the cancer would have gotten her anyway, but she was bleeding internally, and was told that she needs a blood transfusion, as her blood count went all the way down to 3.2 (should be 12-14.

Tenacious

I'm very sorry for your loss. And while I don't know you personally, I know the feeling of losing someone to this inhumane doctrinal interpretation.

If I hear one more person say "she is alive in Jehovah's memory" I am going to punch someone.

I commend you for keeping your cool with these moronic and blind members. God knows how you managed to stay controlled. I don't know that I could have kept my cool in similar circumstances.

Take care of yourself and PM if you ever need an ear or just vent. Take care friend.

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REAL Miracles!!

by pale.emperor in

you all like miracles?

wanna hear some real miracles that have happened?

this is all true folks!

Tenacious

There are more miracles coming from Christendom than the JW's.

Yet, they lay claim to having God's blessing. What a joke.