we have seen that the society falls back on the line "it is the victims right to approach the authorities" during all the abuse claims.. they use this excuse to try and defend the passive lack of action in failing to report suspected cases of abuse.. a comparison came to mind:.
if we came across a person lying in the street who says they were hit by a car, would we say "it is your absolute right to call the paramedics and police"?.
or would we take the initiative and call those authorities ourselves to help the person?.
Jehovahs-witnesses are trained to steer clear of any activity that there is not of a direct tangible benefit to the organization. You would think that they would be more than happy to turn over any suspicion of child molestation to the authorities, but that would keep a potential drone from being out there slogging their wares door to door.
This is just a convenient excuse for them to feel justified in doing nothing.
as i was sitting in the meeting last night i thought about this question.. sometimes it feels really lonely because i don't connect with most others in the congregation and i have to be so careful with the ones with whom i do associate.. quick rundown on my life...got baptized at 17...married at 20...became inactive at 28 wife still active though...came back to meetings with her 20 years later just to keep her quiet and see if they had changed (for a while i actually thought they had)...now i am still inactive and haven't gone out in service or anything.
i just go to meetings with my wife who is happy as a lark to have me there with her...just go to meetings and think...and think...and think.... anyway, i just wondered if there are any out there like me who are going to meetings and nothing else?.
I didn't want to get into the gory details in my OP but my wife has had lots of medical and mental problems and after her pleading with me to just TRY and give Jehovah something to bless I said fine I would go to the meetings with her.
A few years ago, my wife went to this stage, pleading, to me about what my intentions were with respect to ever going to meetings again. Since she asked, I told her point blank that I didn't believe in any of it anymore and that I would never be going back.
i heard my hard out jw sister say that for the 1st time in many years and i'm hearing more and more jw's saying that.
years ago when i was in they talked about the new system coming any minute..
I stopped there for a moment as she silently sat there with her eyes closed and bowed head, lips moving while silently enunciating each word
Does anyone else think that this is the most absurd practice?
I've seen witnesses....if you handed them a couple of chips out of a bag will silently drop their heads and say silent prayers over it before eating. It is one of the more silly things I see them do and just seems so rigid and cultish.
What do you do when they do this?
I've gotten to the point where I just ignore them and go on about doing whatever I happen to be doing
as i was sitting in the meeting last night i thought about this question.. sometimes it feels really lonely because i don't connect with most others in the congregation and i have to be so careful with the ones with whom i do associate.. quick rundown on my life...got baptized at 17...married at 20...became inactive at 28 wife still active though...came back to meetings with her 20 years later just to keep her quiet and see if they had changed (for a while i actually thought they had)...now i am still inactive and haven't gone out in service or anything.
i just go to meetings with my wife who is happy as a lark to have me there with her...just go to meetings and think...and think...and think.... anyway, i just wondered if there are any out there like me who are going to meetings and nothing else?.
Still going to them sometimes by proxy of my wife wanting to talk about how good they are.
When my eyeballs start to sweat
she knows it is time to stop talking about them.
so recently, my jw wife asks me if i ever considered taking up a cause.it was a question out of the blue, coming off of a discussion about politics.
so while it was unsaid, she was really getting at whether i was considering being politically active in some way.. i already have a standard answer that i have used before with other people, so i said it.
"no, i will be content to work and get by then retire and sit in the sun with a good book and a cold water.
No, I will be content to work and get by then retire and sit in the sun with a good book and a cold water. That's it.
That's where I am. 5 years to go.
Will be retiring at 57 with a lot of years left to go and do whatever the hell I want.
i proably shouldnt be on here but i feel like saying this.
i have been for the last couple weeks been studying religion.
i've learned the only ones who today do what the bible says to is jw.
12 Pages......
You guys sure are gluttons for punishment!!!!!!
i just had a random recall about jws and what they used to peddle.. in my area of pennsylvania (usa), there was a brother who used to be the shaklee dealer.. there was also a brother who owned his own landscaping company and sold long distance phone plans.
in fact, i remember 3 brothers who sold lond distance plans.. did anyone else experience these products or others?
just wondering.. brian.
I remember, after I was baptized, this brother was pushing hard for me to be one of his down line salespeople for Primerica. I'm not sure anymore of what the product was, I think either worthless investment or insurance products.
Anyway, he was on my ass to the point where it got very uncomfortable for me to push Primerica products on every family member I knew and to get them to sell to everyone they knew as well. I eventually stopped taking his calls. One day, when I did happen to answer the phone, this "brother" dressed me down pretty good for being unreliable, a waste of his time, and a loser for not succumbing to this MLM scheme.
It was one of the many straws that broke the camel's back for me wanting to have anything to do with being a witness.
with their luxurious lakeside condos.
takes all the congregations funds promising new kingdom halls.
but instead starts selling off kingdom halls ..then makes faithful old brothers and sisters drive 20-30 miles to another one, and .kicks out half the bethelites for only only tech savy college educated ones.can barely afford to send out printed publications anymore.
Nowwhat?
A trio of brothers would like to talk to you in the second school after the meeting ends if you have a moment.
with their luxurious lakeside condos.
takes all the congregations funds promising new kingdom halls.
but instead starts selling off kingdom halls ..then makes faithful old brothers and sisters drive 20-30 miles to another one, and .kicks out half the bethelites for only only tech savy college educated ones.can barely afford to send out printed publications anymore.
You're not respecting theocratic order!!!
i just received this news from a bro who has connections in bethel.... .
bro albert d schroeder died at 10:30 am new york time today at brooklyn bethel...he was 94 yrs old.. he was born on april 7, 1911 in saginaw, michigan and entered bethel service in 1932. he was appointed a member of the governing body on december 18, 1974. bro schroeder's life story appeared in the march 1, '88 wt pages 10-17: entitled: "my life in jehovah's spirit-directed organization.".
i don't know if the "today" means it was actually today...as i can't be sure when my friend received this news... but anyway, another of the old guys bites the dust.. .
This guy is not dead.
He's hanging out in his heavenly crib with the other "remnant". Him and Jeebus are making plans on how they are going to "hook it up" down here on earth after all of us viscious apostates and nonbelievers are reduced to birdfood.
