Posts by out4good4

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Did you ever have a discussion with an apostate that helped your journey out.

by jwfacts in

there seems to be a number of different ways that apostates try to get jehovah's witnesses realise they do not have the truth, ranging from subtle comments to aggressive attacks.

do you have any that looking back helped you finally leave.

some of the methods include:.

out4good4

For me it was JWs themselves. I got sick and tired of having to report myself to the elders, watching my back, hiding mundane things from my family and friends that were no big deal. I could see a lot of hypocrisy and i wanted no part of it.

This statement really resonated with me.

I am often told by my wife that she hope that it wasn't anything she done to cause me to reject being a JW. It would probably crush her to no end to know that she herself was the catalyst.

I came from a big family and we regularly had familial events on weekends and holidays. Me and the wife used to really enjoy these events, however, the deeper she got into being a JW the more fault she found with them.

What I grew most tired of was how everything to the slightest degree revolved around meeting attendance and not causing conflict or being in complete agreement of whatever circle of JW friends we were around or whatever was in the latest magazines. Another thing she would do is right in the middle of the fun of a family event, she would proclaim that she wanted to get home early and leave so that she could make a meeting later that day or the next.......then she'd find a reason to not go to the meeting we left all the fun for. This infuriated me.

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Confused trying to understand JW GF or soon to be EX

by James87 in

i dont know where to start so why not at the beginning.

i was seeing this girl and we hit it off great chemistry.

it went from a physical to a deeper relationship.

out4good4

Look up and read the posts of a member here SD-7.

Unless you are going to be a full bore male JW reaching out for privileges in the congregation, you are fighting a loosing battle.

Love????pfffftttttt..........

You're going to find out eventually that that piece of ass is not worth it.

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Was it just me or was something different about the memorial last night?

by kpop in

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this was the first memorial that i declined to do any work for the memorial.

i was assigned as a parking attendant after getting downgraded from doing the sound and had no intention of doing either task but i had to attend for my family and continuation of my fade.

i sat there last night listening to the talk and couldn't help but shake my head as my brain attempted to process the bs.

out4good4

The ones who turn up as guests are almost always family members who were never in "the truth" but turn up to this once a year because it's the least they could do to keep their spouse/family happy.

Was me being there with my spouse that obvious?

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How much $$$$ will have been spent on the letter writing campaign to Russia?

by OrphanCrow in

i have been following the jw chatter online about the letter writing that has been furiously undertaken by the jws around the world.

a global effort done on the command of the gb in ny.. several jws have mentioned the cost of mailing letters (and packages of letters, where allowed) to russia and the cost is substantial.

some jws have mailed dozens of letters.. the jw boast is that the russian postal system will be overwhelmed with letters.

out4good4

So.....all of those letters my wife sent out a couple of days ago cost me a 10 spot!!!!

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My awkward elders hearing

by Andamormonjustbelieves in

i was baptized when i was 14 years old.

i hadn't had any real relationship with a girl up to that point.

but when i started going to high school i learnt the joys of experimenting with girls, so i did not stay a faithful member of the congregation for long.

out4good4

"Did you ejaculate"? ans. "Yes". "Where did you ejaculate"? ans. 'In her mouth". I almost lost it on that one

You've got to be kidding.....

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My awkward elders hearing

by Andamormonjustbelieves in

i was baptized when i was 14 years old.

i hadn't had any real relationship with a girl up to that point.

but when i started going to high school i learnt the joys of experimenting with girls, so i did not stay a faithful member of the congregation for long.

out4good4

"Did you put your hands below her shirt?
Did you kiss her exposed breasts?
Did you fondle her genitals? Did she fondle yours?"
These were all questions asked during my JC when I was 19. Good times.

I just can't imagine how anyone would put up with being questioned in this way?

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Is this a normal JW practice? Warning, this will be a bit graphic.

by Sequoia in

this post may be disturbing and i apologize, but i'm just trying to find out if this is a practice the jw teaches.

i was taken advantage of by a guy claiming to be a jw preacher.

he took me to his house supposedly so i could give his daughter piano lessons, and then he basically forced himself on me while telling me he was in love with me and wanted to marry me.

out4good4

The Bullshit is strong from this post. Makes sense to go on a forum full of strangers and talk about being raped rather than tell a friend and report it

**sniff****** ***sniff*****

Whew!!!!!

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Is this a normal JW practice? Warning, this will be a bit graphic.

by Sequoia in

this post may be disturbing and i apologize, but i'm just trying to find out if this is a practice the jw teaches.

i was taken advantage of by a guy claiming to be a jw preacher.

he took me to his house supposedly so i could give his daughter piano lessons, and then he basically forced himself on me while telling me he was in love with me and wanted to marry me.

out4good4

Does anybody else smell that.....

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Finally, after almost 3 years, they want to visit with me

by StarTrekAngel in

so i ended up going to the meeting yesterday.

i have been absent for almost 2 months.

my wife was also absent as long but mostly out of chance.

out4good4

it's much harder to come up with a polite excuse ........ to terminate the visit when they're in your home. You can't make a vague claim of other plans or give a reason you need to excuse yourself and leave, you have to kick them out of your home............. having the visit at your home actually puts a fair amount of the power in their hands because it forces you to be an impolite and ungracious host if you want to control the length of the visit.

I guess this depends upon what type of relationship you want to have with them after the visit is over.

I remember a visit I had with a couple of elders who shepherd called upon my house one day, I suspect at the behest of my wife. The reason I think it was at the behest of my wife was that she intimated to me that the call would be for her, but left me in the room with them alone shortly after they arrived.

This was just after one of their assemblies where they were equating themselves with being the modern day Ark (IE Noah's Ark).

During the visit, they were trying to corner me on some asinine point about agreeing that salvation was only through association with the organization (WT Society) and that I would be a fool to not be a fully active member. Exasperated, I finally told them

"Look......we can sit here and discuss the Bible all you want, but, I will not have you guys attempt to corner or beat me over the head with it."

After a stunned silence from them, they hurriedly terminated the visit and left.

.....without even a handshake or a closing prayer.

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Has anyone out here read Thomas Paine's "Age of Reason"?

by Captain Schmideo2 in

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i wish i had read this back when i was 18. it's an amazing take down of religious beliefs, the bible, and religion in general.

) a "reason"-able manner.take this quote, from near the beginning:.

when also i am told that a woman, called the virgin mary, said, or gave out, that she was with child without any cohabitation with a man, and that her betrothed husband, joseph, said that an angel told him so, i have a right to believe them or not: such a circumstance required a much stronger evidence than their bare word for it: but we have not even this; for neither joseph nor mary wrote any such matter themselves.

out4good4

Was exposed to Paine's "Age of Reason" in an undergraduate English class.

'Age of Reason" should be required reading.

His take down of Christianity is Epic!!!