well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.
someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.
i just feel sad for my daughter.
As for my wifes family... well coincidentally they've invited my wife round. She's told me she's staying there tonight with my daughter. To be honest i could do with the head space. I know what comes next, daddy elder will fill her head with bullshit.
You are being far more forgiving than I. If my wife tried that shit with me she'd be told to not bother coming back.
lately i've been feeling just so fed up with this stupid religion i really can't take it anymore!
i'm starting to think that maybe i should just tell my parents how i really feel.
if they treat me too badly or kick me out i could probably stay with my non jw aunt.. ive just reached my breaking point, i don't really care what people think of me anymore.
They forced me to make a deal with them to try to be a really good jw until I turn 18, and then if I decide I don't want to be a jw they will kick me to the curb!!
Can't you just feel of that love Jebus talked about???
What they want is for you to not cause any ripples for them in the congregation no matter how much it hurts you until you're 18. They want you to continue to live a big fat lie for their convenience.
Then, at their discretion, they can kick you to the curb and tell all of their JW friends that is is all your fault.
there doing this right under my nose but i just found out.
not sure what to do but would like your help on getting me wt information on my headship role and how they shouldn't be doing this with out my permission.
also would like some help on showing my son the ramifications on what happens to someone when they get baptized and how they'll expect him to treat me.
Great Work.....
there have been so many cuts in the past few years in the jw world what do you think might be next?
One meeting weekly only.
No monthly reporting of service time.
No shunning!
Good Luck with that one......
The organization would wither away and die if that were the case.....
leaving the religion can be likened to a game of poker.
many possible scenarios can be played out during the game and the potential loss or gains are many:.
you have put too many chips in, every round it just seems you will win it all in the end.
What you've described in Poker vernacular is analogous to the economic principle of "sunk cost".
It is just as applicable to life decisions.
i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.
my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.
i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.
I tried to tell my mom that I wanted to wait, that I didn't have enough time to be ready before convention. She said "why? You have six weeks, and I've already called grandma and she's planning on coming"
So much for baptism being a personal decision and dedication to "le sock puppet jah". .....the pressure is on to fill everyone's expectations.
Granny is planning on coming....not that she already has plans to come. There is still a way out of this , but you're going to have to act and not predicate every decision you make on whether or not it is convenient for or hurt any of your relative's feelings.
Sucks to be in the position you're in right now, I understand, but your family are going to go off on you if you don't want to be baptised now, and doubly so if you walk away from the religion after you're baptised. Like an earlier poster said, the expectations to conform won't stop with baptism, in fact they will increase exponentially. they'll be expecting you to tow the party line, believe everything and do everything they say..... marry and have kids with the first pimply faced brother with privileges and a hard-on that shows you any attention.
It's just a matter of when you want to rip that ban aid off, now......or later.
hi guys and gals,.
its been a long time since i've posted here, i've been caught up with school and work so i've never had the time to post on the forum, but i've still been reading through some articles on here.
now that finals are over i have some time to breath.
i was contacted by my ex sister-in-law yesterday.
she asked me if i wanted to spend some time with my niece, while she went to her sister's baby shower.
it turns out my niece can't go because she's about to be disfellowshipped at the ripe old age of 14. .
Baptism is such a protection
From absolutely nothing. In the real world, the very idea of being submersed in bleached tap water as a symbol of anything other than getting wet is absurd.
not mansfield u k , but mansfield in u s a - it doesn't look much, does it?
in fact even the uber dubs on j w talk are not impressed (that must be a first!
this thread of theirs is publicly readable:.
Looks like they're building for this discount grocery chain.
can someone help me understand how the wt came up with the overlapping generation theory?
i just don't understand it even though i read the information several times.
it's bewildering.
The overlapping generation doctrine means that since 1995 the WTBTS has been making up shit as they go along.
They've been making shit up as they go along well before 1995.
