Posts by alamb
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23Shunning: A Violation of YOUR Right of Freedom from Religion?
by cameo-d ini really get hot under the collar when i read the stories of ex-jws being told to leave weddings, funerals, and family gatherings simply because the.
wt has overstepped their bounds and passed public judgement on these people declaring them "unfit to be around".. .
these judgements are based on adherance to wt interpretation of scriptures and organizational rules and laws they have devised from this "pick.
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Shunning: A Violation of YOUR Right of Freedom from Religion?
by cameo-d ini really get hot under the collar when i read the stories of ex-jws being told to leave weddings, funerals, and family gatherings simply because the.
wt has overstepped their bounds and passed public judgement on these people declaring them "unfit to be around".. .
these judgements are based on adherance to wt interpretation of scriptures and organizational rules and laws they have devised from this "pick.
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alamb
I think on an adult level shunning exists due to innumerable factors. But I think that when a child/parent relationship is broken or damaged there should be punitive and legal damages. A parent has a legal right to his or her child. A child has a right to two loving parents....no matter their religion.
Also I think these issues border on discrimination on an "adult" level (and I mean that only in an over-21 level.......it's VERY juvenile at best)
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Big Love - temple scene and Barb's excommunication
by undercover inwho saw big love last night?.
...and here i thought jws were fucked up.... the whole temple thing was just surreal.
i've always liked barber's adagio, but that music made it even creepier.... jws got nuthin on their temples and ceremonies.... jws are cult lite compared to that shit.... but.... the disciplinary meeting that barb went to with the elders...how deja vu was that?
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alamb
Oh, funny thing I just remembered. At my hearing I took my letters of appeal with me and immediately handed them to the "brothers." They were shocked that I had predicted their holy spirit driven decision being the sinner I was. I was told I could bring no one with me to my appeal hearing nor could I take notes.
At the appeal meeting I brought several tapes in my own defense and a tape player to play them on. They forgot to ask me at this meeting if I had any recording devices to I didn't bring it up either. Near the end I asked if I could play tapes to prove my case and the look on their faces was priceless. They went varying shades of gray and blue and green. "You brought a recording device?" I said yes and they sat stumped looking at eachother. Their tone immediately changed.
They asked me to leave the room while they "talked". While sitting and waiting for my judgement in the auditorium it occured to me how sick the whole situation was. They were men......nothing else. And they were deciding my relationship with God??? I got up and knocked on the door and went in. I shook their hands and told them they didn't have holy spirit. I told them I was disfellowshipping them for unchristian conduct and feigning being followers of Christ. They didn't even pray at my hearings.
I heard they announced that I had DA'd myself at the next Thursday night meeting. hmmm
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Big Love - temple scene and Barb's excommunication
by undercover inwho saw big love last night?.
...and here i thought jws were fucked up.... the whole temple thing was just surreal.
i've always liked barber's adagio, but that music made it even creepier.... jws got nuthin on their temples and ceremonies.... jws are cult lite compared to that shit.... but.... the disciplinary meeting that barb went to with the elders...how deja vu was that?
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alamb
Doubting and Undercover,
You are so dead on. Our sentence is immediate. We are dead....Barb is in fear of what she believes is to come. We are split physically, spiritually, etc. from our family here and now. I don't see alot of trying to get us back either. When confronted by my family, I ask them why, if I'm doomed to die any day now, don't they ask me why I left or try to save me??? I am dead now.
Spiritual rape. Emotional murder.
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Big Love - temple scene and Barb's excommunication
by undercover inwho saw big love last night?.
...and here i thought jws were fucked up.... the whole temple thing was just surreal.
i've always liked barber's adagio, but that music made it even creepier.... jws got nuthin on their temples and ceremonies.... jws are cult lite compared to that shit.... but.... the disciplinary meeting that barb went to with the elders...how deja vu was that?
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alamb
I see alot of similarities and was shocked at the scene of her excommunication hearing as it resembled so closely my own witch hunt and trial. The Mormons, however, don't shun excommuncated ones. They are treated as someone who needs EXTRA help thereafter to return. Barb's upset was due to her not being able to return to be in the heavenly kingdom with her mom and sister, not so much what we go through with the shunning (living death) here on earth.
Sorry, grew up in Utah.
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Artwork...post yours here
by coffee_black ingoing through some of my files... came across some photos of some artwork of mine... thought it might be fun to share with others here who are into art.
so post some of your artwork.
i painted this a couple of years ago... hope this works.... coffee .
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alamb
http://i43.tinypic.com/2ihavlc.jpg
not sure how to do this?
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Witnesses increase by 44% in 7 years Study Finds: 2001-2008
by Joker10 ina more detailed look at the just released american religious identification survey (aris) shows witnesses have increased from 1,331,000 in 1991 to 1,914,000in 2008. that is 583,000 more people, or a whopping 43.8 percent growth.
they now make up 0.8 percent of the u.s. population.. who says jws are in the decline?.
(http://b27.cc.trincoll.edu/weblogs/americanreligionsurvey-aris/reports/aris_report_2008.pdf).
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alamb
http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/statistics.htm statistical charts
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Witnesses increase by 44% in 7 years Study Finds: 2001-2008
by Joker10 ina more detailed look at the just released american religious identification survey (aris) shows witnesses have increased from 1,331,000 in 1991 to 1,914,000in 2008. that is 583,000 more people, or a whopping 43.8 percent growth.
they now make up 0.8 percent of the u.s. population.. who says jws are in the decline?.
(http://b27.cc.trincoll.edu/weblogs/americanreligionsurvey-aris/reports/aris_report_2008.pdf).
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alamb
http://www.gatheringofisrael.com/gospelclock/gospelclock2002.html
Don't know if there's an updated version but this puts it in perspective.
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Ironclaw needs our support.....
by alamb inhis mother passed last month and he is hurting.
i told him our little family here would support him through this.
he will be following this thread.
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alamb
TTT this morning. Thanks everyone!
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Ironclaw needs our support.....
by alamb inhis mother passed last month and he is hurting.
i told him our little family here would support him through this.
he will be following this thread.
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alamb
His mother passed last month and he is hurting. I told him our little family here would support him through this. He will be following this thread. Please send your love and thoughts.
