Posts by ivanatahan

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UK Charity Commission Asks For Experiences/JWVictims.org Article

by Iown Mylife in

article dated 4/19/16, says jonathan sanders is asking for statements from uk residents, about jw experiences that have happened since 2011, to assist the investigation.. marina.

Any other teenagers on here?

by BlackWolf in

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i'm 16 and it seems like most the people on this forum are adults.

i would think since most teenagers have tablets/smartphones there would be more on here but maybe not?

it would be nice to meet some other young people.

ivanatahan

I'm 17, so you're not alone here. I was feeling like I was the youngest one here. :P

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For a little laugh

by ivanatahan in

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look at what my mother showed me today.

i had to verify what she showed me and i got a quick laugh after the meeting.

http://www.thegreatseparation.com/newsfront/2004/01/un_resolution_s.html.

ivanatahan

Look at what my mother showed me today. I had to verify what she showed me and I got a quick laugh after the meeting

http://www.thegreatseparation.com/newsfront/2004/01/un_resolution_s.html

Unbelievable, she probably didn't even think about where she was reading this. 😛

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Talking to a wall

by ivanatahan in

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why must these people be figurative walls when talking about the lies of the jw cult?.

the other day, i had a conversation with my mother.

we started talking about the election and how the candidates differ (me being a supporter of bernie).

You guys are right, and I knew my parents would never understand. I've known for a while, before I even came on this site, but sometimes I just can't accept that. I don't accept having parents blinded to a cult. Not only is my life limited because of them, but so is theirs. A while ago during a heated argument, I even told them that they'll be on their deathbeds before they'll realize it's a lie. My parents aren't stupid, but they're very gullible. At least my mother is. She believes so many conspiracy theories, essentially anything that goes against common knowledge. My father is just her puppet and does what she wants so that she would love him.

I just really hope that I'll be able to live my life the way I want to live it and be able to get my revenge on the organization: live a happy, productive life, better than the lives of the "sheep" that follow the cult.

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Talking to a wall

by ivanatahan in

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why must these people be figurative walls when talking about the lies of the jw cult?.

the other day, i had a conversation with my mother.

we started talking about the election and how the candidates differ (me being a supporter of bernie).

ivanatahan

Why must these people be figurative walls when talking about the lies of the JW cult?

The other day, I had a conversation with my mother. We started talking about the election and how the candidates differ (me being a supporter of Bernie). At some point when we started talking about Trump's intolerance of Muslims she had the audacity to say, "I just wonder what will lead to the ban on all religion."

I may as well have strangled her right there, but I instead told her that it wasn't in the power of the United Nations to even do such a thing. If they can't stop a genocide in Rwanda, how the f*ck can they ban religion worldwide? Who would agree to such a thing? Religion is still so implanted in so many people and nations. Brazil is strongly Catholic. Russia uses the Orthodox Church to influence its followers. It just isn't in the interest of the world to end religion, especially after all the mayhem it can result in. No leader would subject themselves to such a backlash. She said God will place it into the hearts of world leaders, to which I simply repeated what I said and how no one would even adhere to such a ruling, even atheists and non-religious people. It is simply an outright violation of the very foundations that the UN was founded on. Then she told me that history is filled with unexpected events, like the Russian Revolution. I told her the Revolution didn't change the people, nor did it last very long. The people rose up to end the system that was founded after the Revolution. Of course, she didn't agree, with a little, ugly smirk on her face. She said that the Bible prophesied it, so it'll happen. "Everything the Bible said will happen with happen" (Can someone tie me a noose?). I told her, "then why is the Bible so open to interpretation? If it is true and this will happen, why does everyone have a different interpretation of the Bible?" She said the Bible isn't open to interpretation, that it's clear and easily understood. Sigh.

Later, the conversation turned to my personal freedoms, how I'm not allowed to hang out with my friends. I told her how I loved them but I didn't respect their ideas that everyone not a member of the cult is evil and a drug dealer and has sex with every female they saw. I told her that I regret getting baptized because it was the stupidest decision I ever made. I criticized how the cult makes it important that children get baptized at a young age, yet these same kids can't get married early. What's the difference? Both decisions are life altering. I told her that it's ridiculous they'd make a child, like 11 year old me, to get baptized and dedicate their lives with the possibility of getting shunned by everyone. I told her I wasn't capable of realizing the consequences and the seriousness of such a decision. No child is. Of course, she didn't agree with that. As every JW tries to claim, these kids knew they'd be disfellowshipped if they sinned. I didn't even have anything to say to that, it was like talking to a wall; she would never understand.

She then told me that by deciding to go against the organization I was openly rebelling against them and proving to them that I didn't love them. I told her that that was a lie and that I love them very much for everything they've given me, but just because I don't have the same beliefs as them does not mean I don't love them. I told her I refused to follow such a controlling religion and refuse to be like her who simply reads what 7 guys in Brooklyn writes them and believes what they want her to believe, like that children who don't share your beliefs don't actually love you. I told her I refuse to worship men, especially hypocrites. I even told her about the Royal Commission and how one of the GB members said it was "presumptuous to say" that JWs believed to be the only representatives of God. She legitimately told me that she supports what he said, following along the lines of the "theocratic warfare" and justification of lying. I told her lying is lying, and that you can't ever excuse lying. The Bible says don't lie, so why do you lie? In the end she told me she doesn't care about what the organization does or has done, and that what's important is "God" and what the Bible says.

I swear, talking to these people is like talking to a wall. Why do I even bother?

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What song explains what you have gone through in life?

by brandnew in

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this is mine....watch "coolio ft. l.v - gangsta's paradise (official music video)" on youtubehttps://youtu.be/cpgbzylnz7c

ivanatahan

Definitely "How" by The Neighbourhood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzdhBxqz6q0

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what buzz word from the jw's do you hate & why?

by Sabin in

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so my hubby has been on a bit of a roll about the jdubs, we were talking a lot about them & he said the buzz word he hate's the most is "worldly" why?

because he say's "with that one word they have condemned (according to their believes) a person as being worthy of nothing but death.

".

ivanatahan

Jehovah.

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Are we using too many acronyms?

by Coded Logic in

ever wondered how your post might read to someone who's new to this site?.

(may take you a sec to get the real acronyms that are being used).

well i've noticed a pattern where a lot of ostentatious peoples that talk about their tough ass tax troubles only relate it to it as a problem that's being perpetrated by the federal & democratic states.

ivanatahan

3 dislikes. Evidently then, some people have strong feelings on acronyms and humour.

Only serves to show what kind of society we live in nowadays.

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How you want to get disfellowshipped

by ivanatahan in

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i was inspired by an amazing topic i read earlier, particularly about what some people did when their shunning was announced.

how would you guys celebrate such an honor?

or, if you already have a great story to share about what you did during your announcement, please share!.

ivanatahan

I was inspired by an amazing topic I read earlier, particularly about what some people did when their shunning was announced. How would you guys celebrate such an honor? Or, if you already have a great story to share about what you did during your announcement, please share!

Based on my favorite experiences, I'd probably want to stand up from my seat, scream loudly out of happiness while pointing my middle finger at the auditorium, telling everyone to f*ck off. Then I'd get into my car, blast "Goodbye" by Steam, all while screaming "I'm FREE". Hopefully, I'll convince everyone of my "mental disease" and interrupt the audience, inspiring various rumors and gossip for months or even years to come. I think it isn't that bad.

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Some thoughts on the new midweek meeting

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

the new midweek meeting has been running for a month now.

here are my thoughts on how it is going so far:.

1) elders are looking frazzled from being on virtually every meeting and having to prepare unfamiliar formats for items.

ivanatahan

I am wondering about the video presentations and whether they are voiced over depending on which country they are being presented in. When showing them in Australia or the UK, do they retain the original American accents?

As far as I can tell, the foreign language presentations have a voice over, but fortunately you don't hear the English in the background since it's removed. As for whether they voice over in account for accents, I think, knowing how cheap the WTS is, it's unlikely.