Yes a newbie! Probably been asked one to many times, nonetheless, whats the Crisis of Conscience availibility?
Can most of u borrow it from the public library? Or.....is it available for retail sale? Cant find it in book shops (well a breif skim).
Can someone please state the author of the book...this would be greatly appreciated. Im going to recommend it to all my JW friends muahahaha!!!! Well, after Ive read it ofcourse!
Thanking you in advance,
Frantically Insane Andy.
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Crisis of Conscience availabitity
by Frantic inyes a newbie!
probably been asked one to many times, nonetheless, whats the crisis of conscience availibility?.
can most of u borrow it from the public library?
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So many great actors/actresses from Australia....
by DanTheMan ini just saw "mulholland drive", featuring the incredibly lovely naomi watts, who pulled off what is one of the most superb acting performances i've ever witnessed, she was spectacular.
i did a little bit of internet research after seeing the movie, because it was very strange and even though i enjoyed it, i couldn't make any sense of it.
among other things, i learn that the aforementioned ms. watts is an aussie.
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I like Muriels Wedding, not really strictly ballroom. Easily, the BEST aussie film is "The Castle" I just dont see Australian film makers with any creativity/orginality. Bad Eggs and Take Away are two of our worst recent offerings. Judy lucy and mick malloy are radio gods.
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Different moods / different music?
by FlyingHighNow inwhat do you listen to that helps you wake up in the morning and feel alive?.
what do you listen to that inspires you?
what music makes you nostalgic?
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I simply love music. Ive covered most of the bands I listen to and the end of the post. Check out "Orestes" or if ur feeling anti-JW "Judith" all by the band "A Perfect Circle"
What do you listen to that helps you wake up in the morning and feel alive?Even though I dont like pop songs, a song I might like on the radio (that I wouldnt buy on cd). Other than that, I like "Hyperballad" by Bjork. great use of instuments and great lyrical explanation/story telling. Metallica - "Frantic" - just fast riffage, gets u in a mood!
What do you listen to that inspires you? Check out "The Tea Party" and the song "The Messenger"......."John Butler Trio" and the song "Take". A lot of songs inspire me. Beautiful songs include "A Sorta Fairytale" by Tori AmosWhat music makes you nostalgic? What makes you sad?
These are my funeral songs, sad lyrics but uplifting also - The Smashing Pumpkins - "Shame" and "Thirty-Three"
Do you have music for driving? Do you have music for rainy, stormy days?
Driving - just radio. Rainy days - Opeth "My Arms Your Hearse" album. Starts of with a rainy "prologue" and ends with a beautiful "Epilogue" - these are instrumentals, highly recommended, avoid the album, it contains its demons (preferably the voice).
Do you listen to different music when you are in different moods?
Yes. I listen to a range of music. Heavy Metal - Alternative - jazz - blues - funk - some r and b (select as with rap) - not pop - ambient - rock - Instumental - sound effect - dance, the works. I dont listen to satanic metal. Mainly Metallica, Opeth, Radiohead, A Perfect Circle, In Flames, Badly Drawn Boy, Zwan, Iced Earth, Porcupine Tree, Tex Perkins, Something for Kate, Godspeed you! Black emperor, massive attack, The Tea Party, REM, John Butler Trio, Tool, Coldplay, Tori Amos, Deftones, Ephel Duath, St Germain, Bjork, Mercury Rev and the Smashing Pumpkins.
I consider myself an avid collector of cds. And am willing to accept any recommendations from people, of any genre. Beware! Expect criticism down to a fine detail.....muahahahaha (6) -
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So many great actors/actresses from Australia....
by DanTheMan ini just saw "mulholland drive", featuring the incredibly lovely naomi watts, who pulled off what is one of the most superb acting performances i've ever witnessed, she was spectacular.
i did a little bit of internet research after seeing the movie, because it was very strange and even though i enjoyed it, i couldn't make any sense of it.
among other things, i learn that the aforementioned ms. watts is an aussie.
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Yes, there may be great actors/actresses, however, Australian film is perhaps the WORST in the world.
I have watched Mullholland DR and you're right she was spectaclar. I dont want to spoil anything for those who havent seen it, but as DantheMan said its not for the faint hearted. Great movie. I actually watched the diabolical thriller "The Ring" last night, staring Naomi watts as the lead actress - again brilliant. If you havent seen it - please do. Its a re-make of an asian film.
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Satanic music or not (Opeth) - boundaries of JW listening material
by Frantic inas you may or may not know, some jw elders may resent some of their music thier children may listen to.. put simply, a 'death growl' is often viewed as a warped version of satan.
the band opeth use such death grow, however, are not satanic, with one reference to 'demon of the fall' (one of their songs).
they also combine death vocals with beautiful vocals, possibly the best in the business, alongside maynard james kennan (a perfect circle).
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Hey Truman,
Good to hear you are enjoying the new album 13th Step (I have 2 copies because my JW friend sold the other one to me). The reason he got rid of 13th step is this - Jeordie White (ex bassits for M Manson (supposed commercial satanist)) is now the bassist in A Perfect Circle. My argument to my friend is that Joerdie is not a satanist because thats a gimmick (like with wrestling - Jeordie played Twiggy Rameriez). But he doesnt buy it. He still thinks Jeordie is a satanist and wont listen to 13th step because of that.
What do you think about this?????? Please, it would be nice to get a JW point of view on the whole skitch.
Also, of A Perfect Circle's first album "Mer De Norms" the track "Judith" contained lyrics "F#(k your god!" - he sold it to me also. But just a week ago bought Mer De Norms again. Weird. He said he would just skip the "Judith" track. -
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Satanic music or not (Opeth) - boundaries of JW listening material
by Frantic inas you may or may not know, some jw elders may resent some of their music thier children may listen to.. put simply, a 'death growl' is often viewed as a warped version of satan.
the band opeth use such death grow, however, are not satanic, with one reference to 'demon of the fall' (one of their songs).
they also combine death vocals with beautiful vocals, possibly the best in the business, alongside maynard james kennan (a perfect circle).
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Hey Jourles,
Those tracks you recommended are very good tracks. I tend to agree Deliverance and Damnation are better albums when comapared to their earlier material. Im quite an Opeth fan, and have doubles of all the albums because my JW sold them to me (demon influences). Hailing from Australia, I seen Opeth in April earlier this year, and unfortunately, they have postponed their Damnation tour to Late March as it is not economically viable.
At the moment, my favourite track is Face of Melinda (usually the Damnation setlist closer). I got into Opeth through the release of Blackwater Park, as did the majority of most Opeth Fans. Get this! My friend got Rid of Deliverance because of the front cover (in the mirror a disturbing face). Master's Apprentice is the best track of the album, however, the track Deliverance (near the end) includes the most oustanding part on any of their albums. Martin Lopez great drumming on Deliverance, wouldnt you agree?Ive been meaning to get my hands on "In absentia" for a while now but record stores dont have it. Thats good you listen to Opeth, and dont think of Satan, you're the first. My friend who threw out Deliverance still has Damnation, Blackwater Park and Morningrise.
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WOULD YOU GIVE THE JW'S THIS?
by integ ina jw relative brought out something i actually had to agree with.
we were discussing positive vs. negative aspects of the "truth".
she brought out that the witnesses do not participate in war, and i thought 'gee, that's probably a good thing'.
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wow. It sounds like you've had your JW experiences - I will definately talk to you guys, but at the same time, getting bible studies from the most irrational man in the history of JWs (smiles). This guy is stubborn. Look forward to talking with you all, and thanks again for the greetings.
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Satanic music or not (Opeth) - boundaries of JW listening material
by Frantic inas you may or may not know, some jw elders may resent some of their music thier children may listen to.. put simply, a 'death growl' is often viewed as a warped version of satan.
the band opeth use such death grow, however, are not satanic, with one reference to 'demon of the fall' (one of their songs).
they also combine death vocals with beautiful vocals, possibly the best in the business, alongside maynard james kennan (a perfect circle).
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Thankyou for your replies and keep em coming. Nosferatu I would like to get my hands on that issue of Watchtower you speak off. SNS, I found your story hilarious, especially when you said
My mom freaked out when she looked at it and threw the album (record (out of the cover) into our field saying there were demons with it.
What Mormon beliefs were contained in their lyrics?
To continue my story, Opeth have an Album called My Arms Your Hearse, and on that album is a track called "Demon of the Fall". My JW friend bought all the albums, and in turn, was given his dose of demons when he dreamed later that night - someone came into his room and repeated "Hate Jehovah Hate Jehovah".
When he woke up that morning he went into the computer room with the cd My Arms Your Hearse. He CLAIMS, the cd voluntarily moved accross his computer table and shot against the wall. This freaked him out. He then burnt a copy of the cd, erasing the "Demon of the Fall" track, then going to lengths of ripping out the lyrics contained in the booklet.
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Satanic music or not (Opeth) - boundaries of JW listening material
by Frantic inas you may or may not know, some jw elders may resent some of their music thier children may listen to.. put simply, a 'death growl' is often viewed as a warped version of satan.
the band opeth use such death grow, however, are not satanic, with one reference to 'demon of the fall' (one of their songs).
they also combine death vocals with beautiful vocals, possibly the best in the business, alongside maynard james kennan (a perfect circle).
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I just sold my System of a Down cds. I was in to them in 1997/8, then everyone hopped on the chop suey bandwagon. Got sick of them after that. Not a huge fan of nu-metal, although Slipknots song "Gently" is probably the best nu-metal song going around along with Mudvaynes "World so Cold"
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Satanic music or not (Opeth) - boundaries of JW listening material
by Frantic inas you may or may not know, some jw elders may resent some of their music thier children may listen to.. put simply, a 'death growl' is often viewed as a warped version of satan.
the band opeth use such death grow, however, are not satanic, with one reference to 'demon of the fall' (one of their songs).
they also combine death vocals with beautiful vocals, possibly the best in the business, alongside maynard james kennan (a perfect circle).
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Frantic
As you may or may not know, some JW elders may resent some of their music thier children may listen to.
Put simply, a 'death growl' is often viewed as a warped version of Satan. The band Opeth use such Death grow, however, are not Satanic, with one reference to 'Demon of the Fall' (one of their songs). They also combine death vocals with beautiful vocals, possibly the best in the business, alongside Maynard James Kennan (A Perfect Circle).
Here is the problem, should JW be able to listen to death growls and not be influenced by satan, just because it sounds evil?. Furthermore, most of you would be familiar with M Manson and his satanic stunts. Jeordie white (bassist for Manson) now plays in A perfect Circle, and as a result of this, my friend (JW) has stopped listening to A Perfect Circle.
I could go on forever describing, but it would help if anyone is familiar with the music I am talking about, thus saving a lot of time. Please discuss, your musical boundaries. What should be allowed/disallowed. Is Opeth, A Perfect Circle have satanic qualities like my friend claims?