Oracroth

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  Only Two Religions

  by barry in

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  i know i may get shot down in flames for this but here goes anyway.

  im quoting fron dr des fords site http://www.desford.org.au/home/index.php/mission.

  there are and always have been only two religions in the world.

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  Oracroth

  I've studied kung-fu to an extent. I was still a JW at the time, and I guess striking and opponant without touching him is considered spiritistic.
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-16-03 WT Study

  by blondie in

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  we keep in mind peter's words: "it when you are doing good and you suffer, you endure it, this is a thing agreeable with god.

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  Oh, what I meant to say is <guy with hellraiser avatar>, when someone jumps up and decides to persicute at an assembly, the security brothers surround him (without touching him) and attempt to get him to decist. If that doesn't work I don't know what they do. Personally I'd probably start a boxing match with him, I have been diagnosed with ADHD and it's hard to sit through assemblies. Boxing with apostate sounds like alot of fun ^_^ So how about it? I'll be sure to attend the next assembly (since I havn't been to one in forever) and you start an uproar, and we'll box, and then I'll give a final speech about russia and usa coming together ALA Rocky 4.
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-16-03 WT Study

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  review comments will be in black and parentheses ()

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  we keep in mind peter's words: "it when you are doing good and you suffer, you endure it, this is a thing agreeable with god.

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  Oracroth

  They have cute girls in costa rica!
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  Will The Brothers and Sisters Marry and Have Children in The New System?

  by AwakenedAndFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have a question for active elders, ex-elders and other bible experts regarding the following topic:.

  will the brothers and sisters marry and have children in the new system?.

  according to the watchtower, yes .

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  Oracroth

  Actually, for the first time I looked at that scripture differently. Could it be interpreted to mean at the ressurection you won't be married or given in marriage meaning you don't hold the bonds of a previous marriage? The question asked was "which of the 7 will get her" and reply is "None because they won't be given in marriage" which might mean "You are no under the previous obligation". Just a concept.

  My official answer is "Wait and find out" or if you're that worried about it "Don't die". ^_^
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  Only Two Religions

  by barry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know i may get shot down in flames for this but here goes anyway.

  im quoting fron dr des fords site http://www.desford.org.au/home/index.php/mission.

  there are and always have been only two religions in the world.

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  Oracroth

  Oh I forgot to add this,

  In a computer, alot of the AI is governed by reaction. If given the same variables the reaction would always be the same. In order to have true free thinking, we have to be able to make a different choice when given the same variables to react against.
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  Only Two Religions

  by barry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know i may get shot down in flames for this but here goes anyway.

  im quoting fron dr des fords site http://www.desford.org.au/home/index.php/mission.

  there are and always have been only two religions in the world.

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  Oracroth

  Yeah! And all that with a cherry on top for my post...

  Just playin,

  I'm not trying to start up the concept that god does/does not exist. I was more considering the concept of whether free throught existed or didn't exist. I come from a programming background, you know, C/C++ and such. Generally most programmers tend to feel that the universe has a deterministic flow. Since a style of logic dictates alot of our methods of breaking down concepts, much of our logic is based around different concepts we experience. A computer is very deterministic, electronic hardware is very deterministic, and if you look at a man, it's hard not to compare them to a super computer. Yet, the laws that govern the processing are unknown at this time. On the rise is the concept of quantum computers (http://www.cs.caltech.edu/~westside/quantum-intro.html). Perhaps alot of the deterministic ideals become vapor when applied to quantum theory. This is my hope, because a deterministic reality would mean everything we are today could have been calculated before we existed and in a way becomes "fate" or "destiny". Two words that I shudder at!
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  Did a 'major-event' cause you to join/leave JW?s?

  by cyberguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems to me, many people become jw?s after a major event in their lives.

  perhaps it is the death of a loved-one, such as a father, mother, child, wife, or husband.

  on the other hand, it?s also my observation that a "major-event" often causes an active jw to rethink what they are doing with their life, whether they are really in the "truth," as jw?s call it.

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  Oracroth

  Are you implying that the post has a greater mental prowess than the poster?
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  Will it come to this?

  by Valis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this off handed today and was wondering if jws will ever go this far?church of scientology.

  flag service organization.

  (hereinafter referred to as "the church").

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  Oracroth

  I think the biggest religeous contradiction I ever read was this sermon on the Trinity. The preacher started off stating that if you did not beleive in the trinity then you were anti-god and a heretic (yes he used heretic, I never heard of anyone actually using that word seriously today). Then he started a sentence saying he didn't understand the trinity and the concept of the trinity is a paradox, but he reaffirmed that he had absolute faith in it. How do you have absolute faith in something that you don't understand and that you feel cannot logically exist? Well, I'm not speaking against the trinity for those who beleive in it (I don't). I am definitely saying that guy was a bad example of how you should preach about it though.
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  Will it come to this?

  by Valis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this off handed today and was wondering if jws will ever go this far?church of scientology.

  flag service organization.

  (hereinafter referred to as "the church").

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  Oracroth

  I agree with you 68. I've studied alot into mind control tactics. Most of my early mind control studies were based upon females and the best method of acquiring one, known to many youths as "Macking". I eventually evolved this study into behavioral mind control. Generally when there is no absolution a person will be slow to change. Since religeon is a field without much absolution, therefore many find it hard to switch out of what is their basic teachings.

  As to defending the JW, I can't speak on others, but I don't always defend the side who is right. If all discussions were one sided, what would cause people to re-evaluate their own thinking? Take christopher columbus, he felt that the world was not flat and stood against others. Here we are today on a nice round earth (not perfectly round, but my head isn't perfectly round either). Personally I feel that the only way for humans to survive as a whole is to stop persecuting others for their choices. Leave that up to someone who knows the perfect path for a man. ( If you are wondering who that is, I can be reached at 414-911-0024, I'm currently offering group discounts for those trying to reach perfection ) Instead, just move on past them to the direction you feel is correct. In the end everyone will know who was right. If the "New Order" isn't here by 2200. I think it'd be safe to say JW was wrong. If the planet is destroy by a meteor impact, I think it's safe to say the bible was wrong. If everyone wakes up in heaven, I'll be the only person in hell cuz this KKK member once told me god is reserving a special place in hell for me since I am an abomination mix of black and white dna.
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  Did a 'major-event' cause you to join/leave JW?s?

  by cyberguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems to me, many people become jw?s after a major event in their lives.

  perhaps it is the death of a loved-one, such as a father, mother, child, wife, or husband.

  on the other hand, it?s also my observation that a "major-event" often causes an active jw to rethink what they are doing with their life, whether they are really in the "truth," as jw?s call it.

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  Oracroth

  Hah, someone called me intelligent! I sure fooled them