People like Bush would make all forms of abortion illegal today if they could. With that being said, I wonder what would happen if one of the Bush's daughters was raped and became pregnant as a result? Well, I guess there are always exceptions, when you have money and power....fly your kid out of the country and cover everything up.
Atilla
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Abortion...
by Lostreality inwrong or right?.
right to choose, or murder?.
what is everyones point of view?.
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Would you marry not for love but for a visa?
by Atilla ina friend of mine was approached by a asian family living here in the u.s. that wants to get a family member, a 18 year girl living in the south east asia region here to america.
they want my friend to get married to this girl for a year or two so she can eventually become an american citizen.
the family living here has offered to pay for all expenses; my friends air ticket over there and back along with any other expenses incurred plus a lump sum payment upon her successful immigration here to the u.s. my friend is maybe considering it but he hasn't even seen a picture of the girl yet and he is somewhat older(about 9 year difference) than the girl.. now if they fall in love or consemate the relationship, that's totally up in the air and i guess open to bargaining and my friend would totally be free to get a divorce once the girl gets to the u.s. i did ask some of my friends what they thought, and everyone pretty much said no.
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Atilla
I just talked to my friend and he agreed that the whole marriage for a visa is a bad idea. However I have heard that if you have a good lawyer, you can arrange things much faster if you do want to go through with a marriage. Lots of paperwork I guess.
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Would you marry not for love but for a visa?
by Atilla ina friend of mine was approached by a asian family living here in the u.s. that wants to get a family member, a 18 year girl living in the south east asia region here to america.
they want my friend to get married to this girl for a year or two so she can eventually become an american citizen.
the family living here has offered to pay for all expenses; my friends air ticket over there and back along with any other expenses incurred plus a lump sum payment upon her successful immigration here to the u.s. my friend is maybe considering it but he hasn't even seen a picture of the girl yet and he is somewhat older(about 9 year difference) than the girl.. now if they fall in love or consemate the relationship, that's totally up in the air and i guess open to bargaining and my friend would totally be free to get a divorce once the girl gets to the u.s. i did ask some of my friends what they thought, and everyone pretty much said no.
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Atilla
Yeah, I think you are all right, bad idea. To marry someone else from a different country is complicated, especially when money and immigration is involved. Now, if you are from the U.S. and married someone from a country like France, that might work out better.
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Is this a good idea?
by Atilla inok, so many of us thought we would one day soon be on easy steet.
the new system would be here, no more problems, health or financial.
we would all have our own house and life would be bliss.
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good idea about going for a year but that's is really hard since my school, job, and everything is tied together. I could rent my house out for year, but everything else would be extemely hard to get back together. I do need to do some more research, find a place where I could own property, etc. Plus, I am married with a small child and I could only imagine trying to move my entire family to another country. Well, I won't give up yet.
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Would you marry not for love but for a visa?
by Atilla ina friend of mine was approached by a asian family living here in the u.s. that wants to get a family member, a 18 year girl living in the south east asia region here to america.
they want my friend to get married to this girl for a year or two so she can eventually become an american citizen.
the family living here has offered to pay for all expenses; my friends air ticket over there and back along with any other expenses incurred plus a lump sum payment upon her successful immigration here to the u.s. my friend is maybe considering it but he hasn't even seen a picture of the girl yet and he is somewhat older(about 9 year difference) than the girl.. now if they fall in love or consemate the relationship, that's totally up in the air and i guess open to bargaining and my friend would totally be free to get a divorce once the girl gets to the u.s. i did ask some of my friends what they thought, and everyone pretty much said no.
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Atilla
A friend of mine was approached by a Asian family living here in the U.S. that wants to get a family member, a 18 year girl living in the South East Asia region here to America. They want my friend to get married to this girl for a year or two so she can eventually become an American citizen. The family living here has offered to pay for all expenses; my friends air ticket over there and back along with any other expenses incurred plus a lump sum payment upon her successful immigration here to the U.S. My friend is maybe considering it but he hasn't even seen a picture of the girl yet and he is somewhat older(about 9 year difference) than the girl.
Now if they fall in love or consemate the relationship, that's totally up in the air and I guess open to bargaining and my friend would totally be free to get a divorce once the girl gets to the U.S. I did ask some of my friends what they thought, and everyone pretty much said no. I on the other hand would be open to the idea but I'm already married. So, what do you think, good idea, bad?
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Is this a good idea?
by Atilla inok, so many of us thought we would one day soon be on easy steet.
the new system would be here, no more problems, health or financial.
we would all have our own house and life would be bliss.
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Thank you for the encouragement.
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Is this a good idea?
by Atilla inok, so many of us thought we would one day soon be on easy steet.
the new system would be here, no more problems, health or financial.
we would all have our own house and life would be bliss.
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Ok, so many of us thought we would one day soon be on easy steet. The new system would be here, no more problems, health or financial. We would all have our own house and life would be bliss. So, we were off and the reality is that life will always pretty much suck. Somewhat disillusioned with the future, I still however look for ways I can enjoy my life to the fullest and not have to work for the rest of my life.
I'm currently going to college but the process is so slow. I love the learning aspect of school but I still have another 3 years before I have a regular job and I will still be working lots of hours. Thus, I wish there was a way I could retire now, at age 24. I don't really want to do very much, kinda of like the guy in Office Space, you know just relax, watch T.V., hang out. I then began to think that if I worked really hard for the next 2 years, sold my house, and liquidated everything I had, I could then move abroad. I would move to a poorer country like Peru or Vietnam, buy a house and live off the interest that my savings would accrue. I figure that in a country like Peru, I would only need like $5000 a year or less to live comfortably. Is this a crazy idea or am I just completely disillusioned?
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The "United" Watchtower Society
by Kenneson in"now i exhort you brothers, through the name of our lord jesus christ that you should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among you, but that you may be fittly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.
" 2 cor.
1:10. according to the watchtower society one of the characteristics of apostasy is that it leads to division and fragmentation.
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Atilla
I think you could consider this group, JWD to be a spin off.
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Had the 'talk' w/ my dad last night.....
by TallTexan inif y'all remember, i posted a couple of days ago that i'd had the 'talk' w/ my mom and it went really well.
well, at her request, i had the 'talk' w/ my dad.
mind you, he's been in the truth since the mid-50's, elder, pioneer, etc, etc.
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Atilla
Very said and good luck with keeping your daughter from becoming a devout JW. Sounds like you have your work cut out for you.
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How I defeat the JW's
by Atilla inwell, yesterday sure was interesting.
i had my jw parents over to my house for a party along with my mom's jw sister.
there was a steet festival going on in my town called jubillee day so my wife and i invited friends from work and some relatives on her side of the family as well.
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Well, yesterday sure was interesting. I had my JW parents over to my house for a party along with my mom's JW sister. There was a steet festival going on in my town called Jubillee Day so my wife and I invited friends from work and some relatives on her side of the family as well. One of the friends I decided to invite was a DF'd girl from my old KH who now lives in the area. She was DF'd like two years ago for apostasy and my dad was one of the elders on the Judicial Committee that DF'd her. So, it was exciting to watch, my JW parents and this DF'd girl along with other worldly people all in my house congregating together, I loved it. Hey, and the DF'd girl and my parents actually talked together and were cordial.
In addition, when we walked through the street festival with my parents, we stopped at a John Kerry booth, got a bumper sticker, my parents didn't say a word. On the way back to the house, my wife and I stopped and took a tour through a new Non-Denominational church (we just wanted to see how they had fixed up the old church), my parents didn't say a word.
How is this possible? I possess the ultimate bargaining chip, my 2 year old son. Is this right or just what has to be done in order to level the playing field?