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  If you had to choose

  by dothemath in

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  if you had to choose to belong to 1 religion, i was curious as to what any on the forum would pick.. i realize most here are likely atheist (i would have to say i'm agnostic), but if any would like to share their opinion, and maybe why?.

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  If you HAD to choose to belong to 1 religion, I was curious as to what any on the forum would pick.

  i realize most here are likely atheist (I would have to say I'm agnostic), but if any would like to share their opinion, and maybe why?
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  Evolution Deniers - An Endangered Species

  by cofty in

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  evolution explains how everything descended from a common ancestor over millions of years.

  creationists only seem to want to talk about what came before that common ancestor.

  just for the sake of discussion let's pretend that the following is true.

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  Actually I think anyone that believes the account of Noah and the flood has to also believe in evolution.

  All land animals wiped out only 4500 years ago? All this diversity from the "kinds" that Noah saved?

  Thats a scale and timeline that I don't think even evolutionists could fathom.

  I've been watching a documentary on all the flightless birds found around the world recently. (There are many examples- most extinct since rats invaded all the islands)

  So how did they get to these islands in the middle of the ocean.....and then somehow lose flying ability or even wings completely?

  As you mentioned, it takes a lot of wilful ignorance. From your topics it's a subject you have studied in depth, thanks for your posts.
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  Went to the assembly..some.personal thoughts on it.

  by integ in

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  i've been as honest as i can on this forum throughout my time bouncing in and out..and been jumped on for saying anything positive about the "truth" or my experiences at the hall, but it's been a few years now since i have been attending meetings.

  i go to the memorial for family reasons and went to the assembly today for the same reason...but one observation i have to make is most of us have all dealt with years of hearing how gawd awful "the world" is and how the only happiness is going to meetings and out in service.

  now that is total bs.

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  Liked your comments Integ, thought you gave a balanced view on everything.

  I also ended up at an assembly recently, and also found it somewhat nostalgic.

  One brother likened this "old world" to .......gasp! - "a sinking ship"! He even mentioned this illustration had been used before, but now we can readily see the "atmosphere is different, can't you just feel the closeness of the end".

  It was hard not to laugh, and at least wasn't totally bored.
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  JW Podcast About The Shenanigans of the Borg in Australia

  by dubstepped in

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  so here's a link to the latest jw podcast.

  in it they talk about how the organization is structuring things in australia to get out of paying money to victims of abuse.

  the short version, as i remember it, is that they are making each congregation its own individual charity.

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  Wow........I guess we shouldn't be surprised, but it still seems to go to a whole new level of greed.

  Thanks for posting this.
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  Witness weddings

  by dothemath in

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  recently went to a witness wedding, and after the vows the bride and groom were introduced as "brother and sister".....(then last name).....(then the big kiss).

  this is likely not unusual (i've heard it before), but with lots of "worldly" people in attendance it seems out of place to me.. i was just wondering if that's the way it is most places?.

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  Recently went to a witness wedding, and after the vows the bride and groom were introduced as "brother and sister".....(then last name).....(then the big kiss)

  This is likely not unusual (I've heard it before), but with lots of "worldly" people in attendance it seems out of place to me.

  I was just wondering if that's the way it is most places?
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  New light in this weeks WT?

  by Indian Larry in

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  anybody have any ideas where they are going with the "new light" they have been pushing last week and this week?

  for instance in this weeks study article one section reads:.

  in years gone by, we believed that jehovah became displeased with his people because they did not have a zealous share in the preaching work during world war i. we concluded that for this reason, jehovah allowed babylon the great to take them captive for a short time.

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  They might have to make additional changes to the revelation book after this. As I recall, some of the prophecies from there tied into 1918, etc.

  I think the scripture mentioning "the two witnesses, who were killed, and then miraculously come back to life" (not an exact quote) was supposed to have fit into 1914-1919.
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  Scriptures rarely mentioned

  by dothemath in

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  a couple of examples of scriptures hardly ever quoted is 1 tim.

  2:12- "i do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence".

  or verse 11- "let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness.".

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  Lev 19:27 ".....you must not destroy the extremity of your beard"

  Maybe this could be quoted again sometime now?
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  Scriptures rarely mentioned

  by dothemath in

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  a couple of examples of scriptures hardly ever quoted is 1 tim.

  2:12- "i do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence".

  or verse 11- "let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness.".

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  A couple of examples of scriptures hardly ever quoted is 1 Tim. 2:12- "I do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence"

  or verse 11- "Let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness."

  Paul didn't know everything though, because he talked about the good news already being preached "in all creation that is under heaven". (Didn't know about North and South America, etc. I guess)- Colossians 1:23

  Was wondering if any of you fine people had other examples to share?
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  2016 year book

  by pepperheart in

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  hi acording to the 2016 year book the borg sent 6,000 people from bethels around the world "home" i think they might be struggling a bit lol .

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  I've heard it said by some how Bethel "was the best career you could have, nothing would compare to its retirement plan".

  I'm sure it's been a rude awakening for many bethelites.
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  Watchtower's Illogical Teachings

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  just writing down some notes to share with jws when i meet them.

  here are a few of the problems of logic i see in their doctrines.

  perhaps you can add to them.. systemic contradictions – jws boast about fighting for religious freedom – that is their freedom to share their differing views with people outside the organization - yet there is no freedom amongst members to disagree with any official teaching within the organization without the threat of losing friends and family.

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  The logic of so few Christians being of the anointed in the 1st century is ludicrous, and that's something I try to bring up occasionally in a tactful way.

  I guess I would add the adhering to the Genesis account as a major flaw.

  One more is that instead of reading scriptures objectively, they're now adjusting everything to fit pre-conceived notions, like over-lapping generations.