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dothemath
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Jesus on the stake
by dothemath ini sat in recently with some relatives for the sunday meeting.
the talk was given by a bethel speaker, who at one point quoted john 20:25.
“but he said to them: “unless i see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, i will never believe it.”.
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Jesus on the stake
by dothemath ini sat in recently with some relatives for the sunday meeting.
the talk was given by a bethel speaker, who at one point quoted john 20:25.
“but he said to them: “unless i see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, i will never believe it.”.
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dothemath
I sat in recently with some relatives for the Sunday meeting. The talk was given by a bethel speaker, who at one point quoted John 20:25
“But he said to them: “Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, I will never believe it.”
Except he didn’t say “nails”, he paraphrased “nail” only.
Any picture portraying the torture stake always shows only one nail in Jesus’ hands. It seems pretty ironic since they always pride themselves on such attention to detail.
Maybe trying to fit the scriptures into a pre-conceived idea?
Similarly they always show the famous inscription above Jesus’ hands, not as recorded in Matt. 27:37
“They also posted above his head the charge against him, in writing: “This is Jesus the King of the Jews.”
Whether or not there was a stake or a cross, they’re more than ready to adjust the details to their beliefs.
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Noah’s flood
by dothemath ina few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.
one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.
later another talk was about noah etc.
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dothemath
Interesting info about sequoias. Maybe a better reference would be the pyramids, I remember Splane reasoning how they can’t be dated correctly.
Even if he was right, imagine how many centuries would have to pass until a civilization like that could develop?
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Noah’s flood
by dothemath ina few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.
one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.
later another talk was about noah etc.
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dothemath
A few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on Gods remarkable creation. One of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!
Later another talk was about Noah etc. I remember thinking, how did they miss this? How could the tree survive a worldwide flood 3500 years ago?
I know everyone here knows it’s ridiculous, and if I was writing the doctrine, I would make a change.
it would be quite easy I think, just by using this scripture. This was from a recent study article.
By the time the apostle Paul wrote his letter to the Colossians, about 61 C.E., he could describe the good news as being preached “in all creation under heaven.” (Col 1:23) In Paul’s day, “all creation” meant the world as it was then known.
So the “world” doesn’t always mean the whole world. They could give the flood a little bit of believability, but of course they won’t.
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Ratboy
by Dan463 inyou guys used to know me as ratboy back in the day.
it's been about ten years, how the hell is everyone?!
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dothemath
Welcome back!
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JW jubilee jewels from 2-16 2020 wt study.
by waton injw jubilee,.
believe it or not, the long wait: ~ 3000 years.
par.
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dothemath
Rutherford had lots to say about the jubilee. In one of his books (not sure which one) he came up with some prophetic fulfillment that led to the year 1925.
Somehow he reasoned a jubilee was 50 years, and there were supposed to be 70 of these, totalling 3500 years.
I think he had this starting from entering the promised land, and the 3500 years would end in 1925.
This is why he wanted that Beth-Sarim property, for Abraham and the rest to have a place to stay.
Of course they wouldn't bring all that history up in the current watchtower.
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Another stay in talk
by road to nowhere inwe got a local talk.
keep away from outside influences, and marginal witnesses(me?).
keep up prayer, study, all that.
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dothemath
Were we at the same talk? I guess it's a pretty common theme.
The brother said we must avoid all worldly association, listing things like company golf tournaments, graduations, school reunions, etc.
I go occasionally with the wife, but did have to laugh (silently) at all the rules.
I know of many in the audience who attend those functions, and I always hated to miss golfing with workmates.
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Who's Happy To Go Abroad and Drive on the Other Side?
by snugglebunny ini do it most years.
being in the uk, virtually every other country nearby drives on the right.
we drive on the left.
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dothemath
We rented a car to drive all over Ireland some years ago. (Glad we did, the best way to see what you want)
its a total game-changer with google maps, or some sort of gps.
it gives you total directions, what lane to be in, what's coming up ahead of you, etc.
I think we would have gotten lost multiple times without it, as the street signs in many cities are very small (sometimes just on the side of a building)
If you're renting a vehicle in the uk, be sure to get (and get familiar with) some type of navigation (they will rent them with the vehicle)
If you've got good insurance (might even be included with your credit card, ours was) with gps and someone helping you navigate, you'll be fine!
You've got to get used to the narrower lanes for sure, but once you're used to that it's no problem!
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Going in different directions
by dothemath inwas visiting with some old friends a while ago, and got to hear some interesting updates about their congregation.. there is a new family moved in, from the ukraine, and are very zealous.
when giving their experience (they're quite new in the "truth") they feel strongly that the religion has changed their life.. they were ready to divorce, but from studying the bible, etc., they are now a happy family.. its really a yearbook type example that make a lot witnesses feel vindicated.. on the other extreme, in the same congregation, a teenager just graduating (an elders son) just up and left and moved in with a "worldly" family.
he told his parents he doesn't believe it's the truth, and actually believes in evolution.. he was being "encouraged" to get baptized, but he managed to avoid that.
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dothemath
From what was told he didn't want to have to go to the meetings any more, which his parents of course wouldn't allow.
It seems he made some close friends at school that let him move in.
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Going in different directions
by dothemath inwas visiting with some old friends a while ago, and got to hear some interesting updates about their congregation.. there is a new family moved in, from the ukraine, and are very zealous.
when giving their experience (they're quite new in the "truth") they feel strongly that the religion has changed their life.. they were ready to divorce, but from studying the bible, etc., they are now a happy family.. its really a yearbook type example that make a lot witnesses feel vindicated.. on the other extreme, in the same congregation, a teenager just graduating (an elders son) just up and left and moved in with a "worldly" family.
he told his parents he doesn't believe it's the truth, and actually believes in evolution.. he was being "encouraged" to get baptized, but he managed to avoid that.
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dothemath
Was visiting with some old friends a while ago, and got to hear some interesting updates about their congregation.
There is a new family moved in, from the Ukraine, and are very zealous. When giving their experience (they're quite new in the "truth") they feel strongly that the religion has changed their life.
They were ready to divorce, but from studying the Bible, etc., they are now a happy family.
Its really a yearbook type example that make a lot witnesses feel vindicated.
On the other extreme, in the same congregation, a teenager just graduating (an elders son) just up and left and moved in with a "worldly" family. He told his parents he doesn't believe it's the truth, and actually believes in evolution.
He was being "encouraged" to get baptized, but he managed to avoid that. (smart kid)
For me, I think both examples are okay. If the bible helps you with life, and the witness lifestyle is for you, then that's great.
But for a 17 year old to have to leave home, because he doesn't believe, is totally wrong. That's what I think most on this forum find offensive, we're not supposed to have freedom of choice or religion.