I’m sure there’s lots of witnesses have trouble reconciling Splane’s explanation. It gets really crazy if you apply the logic to someone like Methuselah, supposedly living for almost a thousand years.
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The Watch Tower Generation
by waton init so happens that my grandfather and i share the same birthday; -- this month.
i lived with him from 1930 to ~ 1947. so, following the parenting pattern in our family, he would be born, be alive by ~ 1880, the same age as the "watchtower magazine" , therefore, you could say, we both lived in the wt era, right ?
dare we say we belong to the wt generation,?.
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EMMA PEEL (Adieu)
by Terry inemma peelyou’re oh so thrillin’ when you’re bashin’ in a villainin a tight black leather catsuit, yes indeed!head held highyou won’t dawdle but accelerate the throttle as you .
toss a wink to handsome partner steedemma pealyou crave adventure in your role as an avengercool and pretty with such witty repartee’deserving of a kudo with the lithe and limber judoyou’re the boss with every tosser comes your wayemma pealmay break the rules but she’ll never suffer fools(though she’ll make the fools soon suffer for their crime!
)nemesis to haughty ones, a darling to her audiencethe champion trendsetter of her timeemma pealwe’d love to kiss you every fan is gonna miss you(i am reaching for the tissue) as i cryas a true and loyal fan ireally know (you are diana)it’s the ending of an era bye and byebeautiful dianafond adieu …rest in peace my angellove, terry.
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dothemath
That Avengers series was great, I guess all of us old-timers remember that. She had a lot of class.
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Was Sin Inevitable?
by Parker ini was wondering about this question and wanted to ask: was sin inevitable?
also, i had thought about past watchtower articles or publications related to this topic and did some research and found this from our readers ask if adam was perfect, how was it possible for him to sin?.
well, then, did god create adam with a moral weakness, so that he lacked the ability to make sound decisions or to withstand temptation?
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dothemath
Imagine if Adam + Eve hadn’t sinned, the whole world would be full of perfect people living in paradise. (This is what witnesses hear on a weekly basis)
what are the odds out of millions of people, that someone eventually eats the fruit? It would be inevitable. So now you’ve got perfect people alongside imperfect?
In all watchtower books talking about the original sin, they never mention any other possibilities.
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Jesus on the stake
by dothemath ini sat in recently with some relatives for the sunday meeting.
the talk was given by a bethel speaker, who at one point quoted john 20:25.
“but he said to them: “unless i see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, i will never believe it.”.
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dothemath
If that’s your opinion, fine. But this category is called “bible research and study articles”.
If you think it’s a waste of time, don’t bother with this category then.
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Jesus on the stake
by dothemath ini sat in recently with some relatives for the sunday meeting.
the talk was given by a bethel speaker, who at one point quoted john 20:25.
“but he said to them: “unless i see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, i will never believe it.”.
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dothemath
I sat in recently with some relatives for the Sunday meeting. The talk was given by a bethel speaker, who at one point quoted John 20:25
“But he said to them: “Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, I will never believe it.”
Except he didn’t say “nails”, he paraphrased “nail” only.
Any picture portraying the torture stake always shows only one nail in Jesus’ hands. It seems pretty ironic since they always pride themselves on such attention to detail.
Maybe trying to fit the scriptures into a pre-conceived idea?
Similarly they always show the famous inscription above Jesus’ hands, not as recorded in Matt. 27:37
“They also posted above his head the charge against him, in writing: “This is Jesus the King of the Jews.”
Whether or not there was a stake or a cross, they’re more than ready to adjust the details to their beliefs.
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Noah’s flood
by dothemath ina few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.
one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.
later another talk was about noah etc.
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Interesting info about sequoias. Maybe a better reference would be the pyramids, I remember Splane reasoning how they can’t be dated correctly.
Even if he was right, imagine how many centuries would have to pass until a civilization like that could develop?
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Noah’s flood
by dothemath ina few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.
one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.
later another talk was about noah etc.
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A few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on Gods remarkable creation. One of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!
Later another talk was about Noah etc. I remember thinking, how did they miss this? How could the tree survive a worldwide flood 3500 years ago?
I know everyone here knows it’s ridiculous, and if I was writing the doctrine, I would make a change.
it would be quite easy I think, just by using this scripture. This was from a recent study article.
By the time the apostle Paul wrote his letter to the Colossians, about 61 C.E., he could describe the good news as being preached “in all creation under heaven.” (Col 1:23) In Paul’s day, “all creation” meant the world as it was then known.
So the “world” doesn’t always mean the whole world. They could give the flood a little bit of believability, but of course they won’t.
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Ratboy
by Dan463 inyou guys used to know me as ratboy back in the day.
it's been about ten years, how the hell is everyone?!
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dothemath
Welcome back!
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JW jubilee jewels from 2-16 2020 wt study.
by waton injw jubilee,.
believe it or not, the long wait: ~ 3000 years.
par.
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dothemath
Rutherford had lots to say about the jubilee. In one of his books (not sure which one) he came up with some prophetic fulfillment that led to the year 1925.
Somehow he reasoned a jubilee was 50 years, and there were supposed to be 70 of these, totalling 3500 years.
I think he had this starting from entering the promised land, and the 3500 years would end in 1925.
This is why he wanted that Beth-Sarim property, for Abraham and the rest to have a place to stay.
Of course they wouldn't bring all that history up in the current watchtower.
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Another stay in talk
by road to nowhere inwe got a local talk.
keep away from outside influences, and marginal witnesses(me?).
keep up prayer, study, all that.
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dothemath
Were we at the same talk? I guess it's a pretty common theme.
The brother said we must avoid all worldly association, listing things like company golf tournaments, graduations, school reunions, etc.
I go occasionally with the wife, but did have to laugh (silently) at all the rules.
I know of many in the audience who attend those functions, and I always hated to miss golfing with workmates.