Posts by dothemath

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Beards- just told by an elder

by dothemath in

i know this subject has been talked about lots over the years, just thought i would share a recent finding from canada.. while visiting with a group of friends, an elder (don’t recall how the subject came up) mentioned the local body had voted to allow brothers with beards be allowed to give talks from the platform.

(it was a very close vote).

the direction given was for each congregation to decide for themselves if that is now acceptable.. so some congregations will be for, and for many it will not.. it’ll probably be a long time before we see any pictures on the watchtower where they’re allowing this though..

dothemath

I know this subject has been talked about lots over the years, just thought I would share a recent finding from Canada.

While visiting with a group of friends, an elder (don’t recall how the subject came up) mentioned the local body had voted to allow brothers with beards be allowed to give talks from the platform. (It was a very close vote)

The direction given was for each congregation to decide for themselves if that is now acceptable.

So some congregations will be for, and for many it will not.

It’ll probably be a long time before we see any pictures on the watchtower where they’re allowing this though.

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Will there be enough good questions on JWD now that minimus is gone?

by slimboyfat in

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a thread in honour of our departed friend minimus.

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dothemath

He was a remarkable person, with such a variety of interests. Certainly will be missed.

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Don’t Trust the Courts! Splane’s Latest Anti-Apostate Talk

by StephaneLaliberte in

david splane’s talk “put up a hard fight for the faith” was that last talk presented on the saturday of the annual convention.

this talk was to largely address apostates and restated ideas and arguments often presented before.

however, this year, watchtower is spending more time in disqualifying negative findings originating from secular courts and here is the segment of interest here: .

dothemath

Some of these court cases have been reported on in very prominent newspapers. I recall some of the verdicts (multi-million dollar lawsuits) being printed in the New York Times.

I think the Candace Conti case made the news in well-known California newspapers.

If they were all wrong, the wt would no doubt sue them for huge sums of money.

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Statistics not looking good

by dothemath in

statistics have always been huge for the borg.

a couple of decades ago there were about 1200 people baptized every day as witnesses (on average).. a few years ago the co was glowing about 800 ones baptized per day.

he didn’t mention this was actually a big drop).

dothemath

Statistics have always been huge for the borg. A couple of decades ago there were about 1200 people baptized every day as witnesses (on average).
A few years ago the CO was glowing about 800 ones baptized per day. He didn’t mention this was actually a big drop)
The wife just sat in on the CO visit recently, and he gave the stat about 241992 people baptized in 2020.
That equals about 661 people per day on average. (Admittedly that’s a co-vid year, might be an anomaly) (also divided for a leap year)
Realistically though, I think it’s going to stay on the downward trend.

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Sound Familiar (Repression is the same in all cults, I suppose)

by Terry in

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dothemath

I watched the Leah Remini specials on scientology, and was surprised at the levels they were willing to go to against any opposition.

Even worse than witnesses.

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Are You Satisfied To Let The Government Take Care of You?

by minimus in

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some people want limited government involvement in their lives.

the less government, the happier they are.

others feel there’s not enough government intervention.

dothemath

Wall Street bankers are all about capitalism, and less government intervention, until the 2008 meltdown.

They gladly accepted the 700 billion dollar handout, going to mostly millionaires.

7

Funeral talk

by dothemath in

i was recently present at a witness funeral (by zoom) and the brother did do a nice talk about this sister who passed away.

her and her husband had pioneered for many years, but she succumbed to cancer.. in his closing remarks, of course he talked about the resurrection, and remarked how the husband (still alive) would soon be back together with his wife.. certainly fine thoughts, but imagine if this guy ended up getting remarried?

isn’t that putting a lot of pressure on someone, when it isn’t even mentioned in the bible at all?.

dothemath

I was recently present at a witness funeral (by zoom) and the brother did do a nice talk about this sister who passed away. Her and her husband had pioneered for many years, but she succumbed to cancer.

In his closing remarks, of course he talked about the resurrection, and remarked how the husband (still alive) would soon be back together with his wife.

Certainly fine thoughts, but imagine if this guy ended up getting remarried? Isn’t that putting a lot of pressure on someone, when it isn’t even mentioned in the bible at all?

If anything, the bible says the exact opposite (Jesus answering the Sadduccees). Even in all the pictures we see in the literature, I don’t think they show husbands welcoming back their wives ( I could be mistaken).

I know of one widow whose husband died several years ago, and she certainly looks forward to being reunited with him. (She is still quite young)

I know a lot of witnesses put their lives on hold for the organization, but this seems to only add more tragedy to a death in the family.

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Do You Believe In A “Deep State”?

by minimus in

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or do you think the idea of a deep state is malarkey?

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dothemath

Sorry can’t get link to work

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The Watch Tower Generation

by waton in

it so happens that my grandfather and i share the same birthday; -- this month.

i lived with him from 1930 to ~ 1947. so, following the parenting pattern in our family, he would be born, be alive by ~ 1880, the same age as the "watchtower magazine" , therefore, you could say, we both lived in the wt era, right ?

dare we say we belong to the wt generation,?.

dothemath

I’m sure there’s lots of witnesses have trouble reconciling Splane’s explanation. It gets really crazy if you apply the logic to someone like Methuselah, supposedly living for almost a thousand years.

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EMMA PEEL (Adieu)

by Terry in

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emma peelyou’re oh so thrillin’ when you’re bashin’ in a villainin a tight black leather catsuit, yes indeed!head held highyou won’t dawdle but accelerate the throttle as you .

toss a wink to handsome partner steedemma pealyou crave adventure in your role as an avengercool and pretty with such witty repartee’deserving of a kudo with the lithe and limber judoyou’re the boss with every tosser comes your wayemma pealmay break the rules but she’ll never suffer fools(though she’ll make the fools soon suffer for their crime!

)nemesis to haughty ones, a darling to her audiencethe champion trendsetter of her timeemma pealwe’d love to kiss you every fan is gonna miss you(i am reaching for the tissue) as i cryas a true and loyal fan ireally know (you are diana)it’s the ending of an era bye and byebeautiful dianafond adieu …rest in peace my angellove, terry.

dothemath

That Avengers series was great, I guess all of us old-timers remember that. She had a lot of class.