Posts by toreador

Sorry to hear of your loss. I lost my mum after I had only been married a couple of months. It sounds like your dad was a very courageous man. Take heart and take care of your mum as best you can.

Tor

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So, Why Does God Permit Wickedness?

by minimus in

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what would say to someone that asks you that question now?

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toreador

Thank you for attempting to answer my question JT.... Let me think on it a little more and get back to you.

Toreador.

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What One JW Belief Could You Never Totally Accept???

by minimus in

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for me it was that god will destroy billions of innocent children simply because their parents weren't jehovah's witnesses.....and you??

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toreador

That all the animals were going to turn vegetarian .. Doesnt make sense to anyone with an inkling of knowlege of animals or their anatomy

That always bugged the hell out of me too! Such as would animals live forever then too or if not what the hell is going to eat up all the old dead animals or are they just going to rot away. Were snakes and spiders going to lose their poison glands. I used to think about all kinds of crazy shit to try to figure that one out.

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IMPORTANT REQUEST

by Amazing1914 in

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if you are an ex-elder ... there is something important i need to request of you.

please pm me using my current screen name amazing1914.

i will then relay the request to you.

toreador

Raises hand to second motion.

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So, Why Does God Permit Wickedness?

by minimus in

jw
friends

what would say to someone that asks you that question now?

?

toreador

JT, you really sound like you know what you are talking about, but in all honesty I dont have a clue what you are saying.

JT: The God we thought was real -- isn't, and the "me" who thought my god was real -- isn't either. It's all shadows. All that remains is pure pristine Consciousness.

What is that supposed to mean? That we aren't real and God isnt either? We are just conscious nothings?

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How Many People Know You Frequent "Apostate" Boards?

by minimus in

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a total of 5 people know i post here.

what about you??

toreador

Only my immediate family knows and they have left the JWs. I dont think any active JWs know I post here.

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The Mole

by new light in

i heard that a jw had just moved into my building from colorado.

a few weeks passed and nothing.

but just tonight a complete stranger walks up to me like we're old buds and asks, "how's that car running?

toreador

Gary, you really have an active imagination!

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Did Noah really build an ark?

by frogit in

this might be worth a watch for us uk ers.

noah's ark will be broadcast in the uk on bbc one on sunday 21 march at 1900 gmt.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3524676.stm.

it's also an interesting read.

toreador

What I want to know is this.

If the water canopy was a good thing when God created it in the first place, why would he destroy it just to kill people off?

If God is a benevolent God, why destroy millions of animals by drowning them when obvioulsy it was only the humans that God was displeased with?

If all humans acted in the way God is supposed to have acted in the flood story the world would be in a worse state than it is in right now.

Here are some cool ways God could have did it.

Jeremiah 19:9 ***

9 And I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters; and they will eat each one the flesh of his fellowman, because of the tightness and because of the stress with which their enemies and those seeking for their soul will hem them in.??

Ezekiel 5:10-11 ***

10 ???Therefore fathers themselves will eat sons in the midst of you, and sons themselves will eat their fathers, and I will execute in you acts of judgment and scatter all the remainder of you to every wind.11 ??Therefore as I am alive,? is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord God

Leviticus 26:28-29 ***

28 I shall then have to walk in heated opposition to YOU, and I, yes, I, shall have to chastise YOU seven times for YOUR sins. 29 So YOU will have to eat the flesh of YOUR sons, and YOU will eat the flesh of YOUR daughters.

Deuteronomy

11. The LORD shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.-- 28:35

12. And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters.-- 28:53

13. So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat.-- 28:55

14. The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter, and toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them.-- 28:56-57

15. I will heap mischiefs upon them. I will spend mine arrows upon them.-- 32:23

16. They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust.-- 32:24

Jeremiah For, behold, I will send serpents, cockatrices, among you, which will not be charmed, and they shall bite you, saith the LORD.--8:17

Zechariah Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.--14:12