Posts by Hunyadi

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Should I send this UN test to my family?

by Black Sheep in

but do we see anything today like a ?disgusting thing?

(revelation 17:11) it will yet turn out to be a ?thing that causes desolation.?

and the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts .

Hunyadi

"Dude!"

LOL, I just love surfers, dude!

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APOSTATES AT THE ASSEMBLY...

by cyber-sista in

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can't seem to paste my words in here--will try below...

Hunyadi

you're a slyyyyyyyyyyy one, aren't ya . . . ?

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Another great picture posting Thread.

by Stefanie in

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here is mine and my hubby's.

i might take it down latter so my crazy ex dont find it.

feel free to post pics of you, your kids, your pets plants anything will be grrreat!

Russell Bible Student Offshoots

by Hunyadi in

i read, and i cannot remember where, that there is a religious org that studies russell's old books and teach these doctrines to others.

and how many other orgs out there are offshoots of the russellites?.

corvin

Hunyadi

I read, and I cannot remember where, that there is a religious org that studies Russell's old books and teach these doctrines to others. Who are they??

And how many other orgs out there are offshoots of the Russellites?

Corvin

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Dealing With Kids Who Are Still In The ORG

by Hunyadi in

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i have three kids, who, just like me, have been raised in the org since birth.

the oldest, 17, and the youngest, 12, are relieved not to have to go to meetings and field service.

they have often complained long before i apostatized, that they hated the hypocricy in the org.

I have three kids, who, just like me, have been raised in the org since birth. The oldest, 17, and the youngest, 12, are relieved not to have to go to meetings and field service. They have often complained long before I apostatized, that they hated the hypocricy in the org. They saw things with their own eyes, and I think they are smart and strong.

The middle child, however, she is 14, expressed to me last night some sorrowful emotion over some of the issues I have discussed with them over the weeks. She is obviously torn and confused, for she said to me, "Dad, this is all I have ever known, and it hurts to think that it all might be a lie".

It hurts me so deeply that she in in such conflict. It is hard for me to know how to talk to her, but this is what happened . . .

I asked her, "you know when you go out in field service and knock on people's doors ,what do you normally say?"

She thought for a moment then replied, " I say, 'hello, my name is XXXXXX, and I am a Bible student. We are in your neighborhood sharing a scriptural thought with you and your neighbors . . . '".

I then asked, "who are you really and what is it you are really doing in their neighborhood?"

She again thought for a moment.

I went ahead and offerred, "hello, I am XXXXX. I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and I am here to sell you a magazine and tell you that everything you think and believe is a big lie. I am also here to try and start a Bible study with you and get you to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses like me . . . "

She kept thinking . . .

I followed up with, "Wouldn't saying that be closer to the truth than what they tell you to say at the Service Meetings?"

"Yes", she agreed.

"It must be very hard for someone to hear that what they think and believe is wrong. Basically, the JW's have been doing that for years to other people", I added. "Your hope is that they will agree with you and change what they believe, and that is the hardest thing for a person to do".

I explained to her a little more about the UN issue and what it really means to someone in "the Truth". HOw the GB has always condemned the UN as the Wild Beast and as Satan's organizational conspiracy against God's Kingdom. Then, they joined up and signed an application stating they would uphold and support the UN Charter's ideals and purposes. The WTBTS has always condemned other religions as The Great Harlot for fornicating with the nations, then the WTBT secretly goes and does the very same thing. I asked her if she noticed the WTBTS is no longer hot to condemn the UN.

I touched on the blood issue and how the WTBTS's interpretation of that one scripture spawned the needless deaths of thousands faithful JW's. "How would you feel if your sister had have died last year for refusing a transfusion in keeping faithful with the Society's edict on blood, then today, you opened your new WT and read how JW's could now accept blood components? She would have lived if the "new light" had have arrived earlier. She would still be here knocking on doors with you. You would rightly feel betrayed and hurt and angry. This is exactly how thousands of JW's and former JW's feel after needlessly losing a loved one to death all because blood in any form was forbade to them by the Governing Body.

I introduced the child molestation issue to her now. I explained the two or more witness rule and how many child molesters in the organization have gotten away with it scott-free because the org was protecting them. She was incredulous. So, I asked her to recall when she was living in her mother and stepfather's (JW) home how the elders dealt with them when Mom and stepdad were acting crazy and abusive. I asked, "did they protect and defend you? Or did they crack open the Bible to basically tell you to stop crying about it and explain what YOU could do to make the family life more peaceful and harmonious? They sort of ignored the real issues and problems in the household didn't they? They caused you to feel at fault for the hypocricy and fanaticism in the home, didn't they. No one brother or sister intervened on you and your sisters' behalf, and you got relief only when I intervened and took it to the worldly courts, isn't that correct? Well, this is basically how the GB has dealt with victims of child molestation in the org. They forbade parents and children to go to the authorities and they would do nothing since there was only one witness to the crime. They tell us that Jehovah will deal with and correct the situation. I explained how the GB changed the policy on this only after getting sued for protecting child molesters. The elders now have to report the incident to the worldly authorities . . .

We will have many more discussions on these things, I know. It will be a while until she can accept the truth about the truth, and she will inevitably be persecuted if she should raise the question to her mother, stepfather or any other in the congregation. I use the scriptures and the WTBTS's own words from publications to show their lies and hypocricy, but I don't press too hard. She is smart and she will come to accept, and she will know that it is OK to question her religion just as she asked so many others to do at the door.

Anyone with experiences and advice, please help.

Sincerely,

Corvin

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APOSTATES AT THE ASSEMBLY...

by cyber-sista in

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can't seem to paste my words in here--will try below...

Hunyadi

All those hours I spent walking from door to door . . . all the mags and books I tried and in many instances did put in the hands of householders.

I need to do something to make up for the lies I tried to give people. I feel compelled to do something to balance out the crap I laid on people. I think I will go the District Convention and hand out 1/4 page fliers with some basic and direct questions and references for those who actually take them to look up. I thank everyone for the tips and suggestions.

Corvin

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What does your user name here mean?

by LyinEyes in

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i don't know what eles to call it , i guess it is the user name....lol.......so what does yours mean?.

i think awhile back i might have asked this,,,,,,,but it was way back and so many new ones here that i am just getting to know, and ones who came in here while i was not here as much.

there may be a thread on this in the last recent months, i am not sure,,,,if so, if there are any new ones who want to tell why they choose their user names,,,,,please do.. i will tell you why my name is lyineyes,,,,,many have asked me that here lately.

Hunyadi

"Hunyadi" is my Hungarian family name dating back to the 15th century.

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Emotional Day

by Puternut in

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i am having one of those days.

it all started yesterday when i was picking up some work from a client yesterday nearby.

when i walked in the store, the nora jones cd was playing and i became emotional.

Hunyadi

Puternut,

So many have already posted such kind and heartfelt responses to your grief and pain. Please feel my warm regards and know that you are loved, even if we have never met.

Sincerely,

Corvin

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cult marriages

by No Apologies in

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ok, i had a thought the other day, and since that is a relatively rare event, i thought i would share it.. .

remember the moonies and their mass weddings?

i don't know enough about them to know just what the point was, or the rationale for something like this.

Hunyadi

Hey Nosferatu,

Has anyone ever told you that you look like Gary Oldman? He is one of my favorite actors, he also played Dracula (Nosferatu to some) hehe.

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Something Good In Your Life

by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

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just thought it would be great to hear from everyone here about something good that's happening in your life.

so much is said about the watchtower and it needs to be said but i thought it would be nice to hear some good things about our lives.. for me what is good in my life right now is the containers of vegetables and flowers i am looking forward to planting, the fine music i'm listening to at this moment and being here with you all.

sabrina

Hunyadi

The quality of my relationships with people has never been better. I have never loved more, nor have I ever been so loved.

Yayyyyyyyyy!