Boa tarde! Sou Inglês, mas talvez a única coisa boa que veio do meu tempo com as TJs é que aprendi falar português (mais ou menos). Infelizmente porém, acho que este fórum não vai ser muito útil para falar com outros portugueses. No entanto, bem vindo!
maksutov
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Amizades
by OportoGirl inboa tarde, sera que existem membros no forum que pertencam a congregacoes em portugal?
procuro novas amizades, edificantes e verdadeiras.
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The JW religion has just cost me my marriage & my family life
by jambon1 inafter leaving the organisation 10 years ago i fought with everything i had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.
after a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.
the religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family.
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What did you think when you visit the museum as a JW.
by James Mixon inwhen you stood there in front of that dinosaur display did you connect the.
dots, or did you like me believe that they made a mistake in calculating their.
ages.
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What did I think? To my chagrin, I did not think. I let the Watchtower do that for me. -
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New Light! People CAN now be saved AFTER the Tribulation begins!
by FusionTheism infor decades, i remember the society, publications, and elders saying that once the great tribulation begins, it is too late to repent or be saved.
they said the "door of the ark will have been closed.".
now, however, look at the brand-new clarified understanding / new light on this from jw.org, below.. they are still saying that the majority of worldly people will not be saved, but they are now saying it is possible.. the simplified july study watchtower says this:.
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maksutov
In other words...
Your son/daughter/mother/father/other relative/friend who knows the JW religion is BS might still convert at the last minute, but don't count on it, and don't leave, cos if you do, there is a 99.9% chance you will be dead meat. Have a hope that those who have left or never joined are not beyond redemption, but not so much hope that you can slacken off. Just enough hope that you'll carry on regardless.
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JWs through the eyes of an eight year old
by maksutov inmy wife is a jw, and is teaching our eight year old daughter jw beliefs.
i am trying to teach her about evolution and critical thinking skills.
here is a conversation we had today (as best i can remember it):daughter: "why do bad things happen?
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maksutov
Thank you for the continued comments and suggestions, I really appreciate it. On Saturday, while my wife was out (on a KH build project), I showed my daughter the video suggested by cappytan. She watched the whole thing, seemingly with interest (I was half expecting her to get bored and start complaining, but she didn't), but had no questions or comments to make afterwards. I didn't want to press her, so just let it go and moved on. I am working hard at keeping our relationship fun and loving, and that is going very well - we are very close.
We did also have an interesting discussion about shunning (my dad and in-laws are now shunning me) - she really sees it as unfair, for now at least. She was shocked to learn that I would not be shunned if I had not been baptised, and that some children even younger than her were being encouraged to get baptised. She offered the opinion that it was silly to expect a young child to know what religion they want to be in for the rest of their life. She is still very keen to be a JW when she grows up, but I think a little bit of the fire has been dampened down, and I hope it all makes her a bit more circumspect - she has reiterated that she won't shun me.
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G Losch: child baptised at 5, reg pioneer since!
by fifth.column inat the end of april, there was a zone visit in france, with tv broadcast in all kh.. g. losch told he received a letter from a girl, 10 years old, baptised at 5, reg pioneer since 4 years !
what a fine example, he said....... let s imagine the faces of the parents in the kh!
i was happy to see i was not the only one to find it crazy.. if you have a child, you know how mature he is at 5. how can a child preach 2.5hours/day after 7hours of school and homework to do??
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maksutov
Giordano: Jesus got baptized when he was 30. I thought he set the example for Christians. Does anyone remember the explanation from the WT why that age was ignored?
I don't know about the official reason, but when I raised that question with my JW wife (who thinks 14 is an ideal age to get baptised), she replied that Jesus was born into a dedicated nation, so he was already dedicated at birth. His baptism had a different significance, so cannot be used as the template for today.
I also asked her whether she would be happy with our daughter getting married at 14. She said of course not, but that is different - Jehovah is perfect and will never let anyone down, so it is safe for her to dedicate herself to him at a young age - it acts as a protection.
They'll always find ways to bullshit their way out of using logic.
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Is the student more qualified than the teacher?
by John Aquila inwhat does the bible really teach page 110....
why does god allow suffering?.
the wt uses the illustration of a math teacher who is challenged by a student that the math problem can be worked out a different way.
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New on here
by Tony Stark inhey so i'm new on here.
just wanted to introduce myself.
in my 20's and was rasied one, and very popular among the jw community.
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maksutov
Hi Tony,
Being shunned sucks, but congrats on finding your way out. Best wishes.
Russ.
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WBTS / JW views never quoted as good source of information
by menrov innot sure if my title is correct.
what i noticed is that in say secular bible research documentation, books, lectures etc, one never (or at least i have never read it) reads a quote from one of the former or current wbts leaders nor do i ever see a reference to one of their publication (unless it is article about the jw/wbts itself).. for example, if you read a book on a bible theme or topic written by a scholar or other bible teachers/professors from prof xyz, you will find often in these books a reference to publications / statements / quotes from other scholars or professors.
but never have i seen a reference to say a wt publication or quote / statement from one the leaders of the organisation.. so, despite the million page printed or conferences organised by the wbts, the material apparently is never considered of value to others or to use as reference material.. in my view, that says a lot..... or am i wrong?
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maksutov
You are right, but they have no shame over that - I think they are quite proud of the fact that they are poorly regarded by 'the world'. They just quote 'the wisdom of the world is foolishness with God', and point out that the disciples were unlettered and ordinary. -
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maksutov
Cool! Congrats.