As far as I know, baptism annulment is never used as a means to leave without being disfellowshipped - it is only used to justify getting baptised a second time if the first one was not valid.
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what happens when one informs elders that one's baptism was invalid?
by quincemyles inis it possible to move from baptized publisher to unbaptized status perpetually?
what do elders do when you inform them that your baptism was invalid?
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Making wise use of magazines letter
by Saltheart Foamfollower inhi all, just got this letter (sorry about formatting - anyone clean it up?).
christian congregationof jehovahs witnessesthe ridgeway, london, nw7 1rn telephone: 020 8906 2211august 13, 2015to all congregationsre: making wise use of our magazinesdear brothers:millions of people worldwide appreciate the bible study aids that are provided by thefaithful and discreet slave.
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maksutov
When I was "magazine servant" (yuk), if we didn't have enough mags, I would get truckloads of abuse. One particular pioneer really laced into me once - he used to take more than 50 of each (Watchtower and Awake) every issue, and if he didn't get all of them, there would be hell to pay. I soon learned to make sure we ordered too many. When I was "literature servant" it was even worse - for some reason they never sent all the stuff we ordered, and what they did send always took several months to arrive. The brothers were constantly complaining and blaming me. I resigned as literature servant as I couldn't take the abuse any more. -
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Could the Independent Inquiry in England and Wales expose jw.org's child abuse failures? And how can we help?
by defender of truth inwith all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.
here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.
the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.
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maksutov
I just sent this:
Hello,
I understand you are currently considering which institutions to investigate as case studies in your inquiry. I would like to recommend that you include Jehovah's Witnesses as one of your case studies, as they have consistently refused to make improvements to their child protection policies (believing as they do, that their archaic and inflexible interpretation of the Bible is superior to "worldly" best practice).
You are no doubt aware that the JWs were included as a case study in the Australian Royal Commission, which exposed the severity of the situation (their policies and practices are pretty much identical in every country in which they operate).
Thank you for considering this request, and I send my best wishes and support for your work over the coming years. I am hopeful that it will have a positive impact on the lives of many children. -
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Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"?
by Marvin Shilmer inthis question is known to be posed by jws to other jws as an acid test of loyalty.
i'm not the first to notice what i'm about to point out and comment accordingly, but today i felt compelled to add a short article on my blog highlighting the new language that governing body member geoffrey jackson supplies as a response.
a person who honestly hesitates to respond with a robust "yes!
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maksutov
I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but...
SimonSays: Better email the Pontiff to let him know that he’s mistaken about papal infallibility and worldwide Bishops are liars according to you people, since they hold themselves to a higher standard than the GB. The Pope speaks directly with God, and the Bishops are Apostles according to their creed.
You are correct, the pope is mistaken about papal infallibility. I don't think we have grounds to call all bishops liars unless they actually make deliberately deceptive statements though. It is very clear that GJ tried to use prevarication to deceive. But that's not really the point of this thread. There is clearly a stark incongruity between the way GJ answered the question (as to whether the GB are God's spokespeople) in comparison to the required response of a rank-and-file JW whose loyalty to the organisation is being questioned. Of course you can claim that technically he was telling the truth, but that doesn't resolve the irony.
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Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"?
by Marvin Shilmer inthis question is known to be posed by jws to other jws as an acid test of loyalty.
i'm not the first to notice what i'm about to point out and comment accordingly, but today i felt compelled to add a short article on my blog highlighting the new language that governing body member geoffrey jackson supplies as a response.
a person who honestly hesitates to respond with a robust "yes!
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Hello!
by BeautifulMind ini've been enjoying all of the discussions here for a good while now.
i found this site as i was researching things about this religion i've been in (finally after nagging curiosity and questions) but i wanted to figure things out more before coming on here and posting.
i'm glad to see that im not alone or crazy!
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GEOFFREY JACKSON TO APPEAR BEFORE ROYAL COMMISSION ON FRIDAY 14TH August!!!
by defender of truth inthe royal commissions public hearing into the jehovahs witnesses will recommence in sydney on friday 14 august 2015 at 11:00am.. it is anticipated that the hearing will hear from one witness, mr geoffrey jackson, a member of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.. .
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www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-08/public-hearing-into-the-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-to-rec.
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$$ Get your ROKU on! $$
by pixel into all congregations in the united states branch territory.
re: discount on roku devices.
dear brothers:.
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maksutov
When I went to an international convention, we were strongly encouraged to book through the Society's travel agent, with the Society's approved hotel. It was very expensive, but we were told they had negotiated a special deal. The hotel staff hated us (not without reason - JWs were stealing food they weren't entitled to). The hotel 'accidentally' forgot to provide breakfast on one of the mornings. I guess we deserved it. -
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$$ Get your ROKU on! $$
by pixel into all congregations in the united states branch territory.
re: discount on roku devices.
dear brothers:.
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maksutov
Their standard affiliate scheme pays 5%, so the borg are probably getting at least that much. https://www.roku.com/about/affiliate -
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Branch Manual 2015
by Marvin Shilmer inapparently the backroom arguments have been heard and decided.
the royal commission finally uploaded a redacted version of the 2015 branch manual.
watchtower lawyers were looking to have as much redacted from this manual as possible.
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maksutov
Page 100, is also interesting, and maybe illegal in some countries:
"Files for Those Disfellowshipped and Disassociated: A permanent file of those disfellowshipped and disassociated is kept. If S-79a/b cards are used by the branch office, they are filed alphabetically by last name, first name, and middle name and should be stored in a very secure, locked room."