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  Bro Knorrs Notes RE Disfellowshipping & Two Witness Rule

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hi guys.

  a fellow ex jw shared this with me.

  haven't time to read them yet (i'm using my phone to go on internet).

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  maksutov

  It was around 1947 when they published an article saying that excommunication was pagan and not supported by scripture.
  
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  the future for the borg

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it look very possible that the borg could lose their charity status in both the uk and oz if this happens the jw will not have all the tax breaks for the buildings that they have now.and that the headquarters will have to start finding extra money.and as they have done so much cost cutting anyway these past years i think they will have to start selling kingdom halls off.

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  Their UK charity status is not under threat. They are under investigation, but losing their charitable status is not on the cards at all. The former lead investigator confirmed (in a phone call to Lloyd Evans, as reported by him) that they have neither the will nor the power to remove charitable status. The most they can do is replace trustees with those of their own choosing. They will undoubtedly put pressure on the org, and I am hopeful that there will be plenty of publicity, but the charity commission has no teeth.
  
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  Raising Concerns To My Wife - Success!!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in case you havent read any of my previous posts the situation is im in the process of fading, my wife's dad is an elder and has the annoying habit of telling the body of elders anything and everything my wife tells him in confidence.

  over the years she's started to see how we can tell her parents anything.

  weather it be worries we have, music we listen to, movies we watch, decisions we make regarding our child etc.. anyway.

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  Good luck.
  
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  Why don't people believe Facts?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have enjoyed some fascinating debates on the forum.

  i have found it interesting when" facts" have been presented to support a viewpoint, yet the " facts" have then been rejected.. what does this mean?.

  well the " truth" is as a dub, i was often presented with " facts" that the organisation was wrong, yet as this information challenged my belief system i convinced myself the " facts" were either completely wrong or misinterpreted, .

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  It gets worse - showing someone facts that disprove their belief often has the effect of making their belief stronger. It is called the backfire effect: http://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/06/10/the-backfire-effect/

  Some people claim to have had some success working around it (eg. Peter Boghossian), but it takes a lot of effort, and success is certainly not guaranteed!
  
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  when you went to an "assembly" did you wear a badge?

  by greenhornet in

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  2. friends

  it embarrassed me.

  when i was young my folks made me wear one and i opened it up and took the paper out making it look like it fell out.

  after my folks ask what happen i said i dont know.

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  I would sometimes put the badge on my jacket, then 'accidentally' leave my jacket in the car.
  
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  If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

  i was surprised to say the least!.

  i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

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  Good question. I would absolutely not witness a blood card, but if my wife needed blood, her blood card was unavailable, and she was unable to speak, I'm not sure what I would do. Is it really my decision? Hmmm.
  
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  Born to Be Conned - The New York Times

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  born to be conned - new york times.

  when people want to believe what they want to believe, david sullivan, a professional cult infiltrator, told the commonwealth club of california, a public affairs forum, in july 2010, they are very hard to dissuade.

  and the reason it happens (and often happens to the most intelligent people) is that human nature is wired toward creating meaning out of meaninglessness..

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  Thank you, a very good read.
  
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  Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi people,.

  i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).

  1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.

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  1) raised
  2) 1992
  3) 2010

  Time in: 18 years
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  UPDATE APRIL 2015 New Documents Re: Charity Commission Investigation into Watchtower Britain

  by jwleaks in

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  2. scandals

  an updated list of documents relating to the charity commission investigation into watchtower of britain and jehovah's witnesses are available on jw leaks.. jw leaks.

  original charity commission press release.

  press release.

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  Announcement that the Charity commission will specifically look into the Anglican and Catholic churches in the UK.
  

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34940723

  Just to clarify - that link is not talking about the Charity Commission investigation. The link refers to the inquiry into child abuse commissioned by the government, which is completely separate to the CC investigation.
  
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  I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

  by SnakesInTheTower in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

  our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

  he hung himself.

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  maksutov

  How tragic. Condolences.