well about the organisation anyway!
i just wanted to say thanks to everyone on this board.
although i did the fade away i never realised that i still thought of it as the truth.
Thanks guys! I find it hard to look at my time and think of the good times. I am sure there must of been some but blowed if I can remember them! What sticks is the lack of love and just how oppositie most lived their lives to the so called ways of their God.
Can I clarify what borg means? I think I know what the answer is but I just wanna make sure!
well about the organisation anyway!
i just wanted to say thanks to everyone on this board.
although i did the fade away i never realised that i still thought of it as the truth.
Well about the organisation anyway! I just wanted to say thanks to everyone on this board. ALthough I did the fade away I never realised that I still thought of it as the truth. So much of what I have read and electronically listened to has made me realise its just a man made religion like any other. I feel so much better now about my decision to leave that sham. I am also not going to buy into more of their rules about how to live life by writing the letter to disassociate myself. Shite who needs more of the sancitmonius you know what!
Everyone here is open and willing to share and support which is more than any congregation ever did for me. I hope this place will always exist in some shape or form as it is needed to help the escapping members of the great crowd out of hell on earth! That is what I view my time with JW as.
I remember my mum told me before she died that it was a cult that wanted to control me like a lot of other cults and that they split families and want money and so on. I of course was horrified at the time. SHe was right about so much including how my marriage would end... she warned me 20 years ago that he would do what he did and that was why no one else wanted much to do with him....Anyway I digress..........
Thanks to Sassy for tracking me down and introducing me to this site and board. Its funny how she sort of knew I would like it. I did email her and say that I was just letting it go and not worrying about rubbishing it or something but I said I would look. Boy am I glad I did. I never realised how many unresolved issues I had. My eyes have been truley opened and I am so thankful to everyone who has taken the time to do research and expose the truth about the troof......You guys rule!
lots of love connections have been made on this board, and its about time we made a few more!
its been almost a year since there was a thread on this, and i figure its about time for an update.. so, are you single?
if so, post a little about yourself here - perhaps there's a love connection right here on this board!.
Single and loving it but would like to hook up with people for friendship, going out having fun, not necessarily ties. Trouble is no one but me appears to live in Adelaide! It gets lonely at bars and clubs when you are the only one in the city, no entertainment, music or anything. I just sit alone at the bar, waiting for someone to serve me to get a drink. After an hour I figure well looks like no one is gunna serve me so I leave. Well after this happens at a few different pubs I go home. I get in the door and think DOH! I could of just helped myself! Turned on the jukebox myself and so on! Sheese talk about you died hair blonde moment!!!
Serioulsy, I dont like the club/pub scene but I love to laugh, enjoy myself and dance and the occassional drinky poo is not frowned upon! I am almost gulp... here goes, brace for impact...(in the unlikely event of an emergency put your head between your knees and kiss your bum goodbye!)...39 EKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK...now that didn't hurt too much did it chuckles??????
I work for Red Cross who are a real humanitarian organisation unlike another one I know that pretends it is but the name alone puts to bed that lie....I am working on a program that reconnects people to public transport to overcome isolation and such. Absolutley love it. I adore my family an dhave 7 nieces and nephews that are literally my life at the moment but I do want to change that somewhat.
I need some me time and need people to have fun. SO if by chance there is another person that lives in Adelaide who would like to meet for friendships sake and just enjoy themselves and not worry about ties and such lets get together and do coffee and not necessarliy each other
anyone remember those kingdom ministry parts we had to attend a month before the summer convention about not saving seats and not eating during the program.
even our behaivor in the hotel pool was admonished!
and don't walk around the halls during the program, hold that boo-boo till intermission holmes!
My favorite was the instructions about when we should and shouldnt go and use the bathroom. Of course they are not into controlling everything one says or does...not in the slightest.....hey I saw that snigger! COme on people this is not about control in any way.....you will say az we say and think az we will want you to think....you vill pay dearly if you do not follow deze orders......send him to ze cooler to think about hiz errant ways...we have ways of making you talk you know......we have ways of making you think what we want you to think......oh and its all in ze good book so we have ze faith that thiz is correct way of thinking and doing things........in no way similar to what they used to do to people in concentration camps...hey I said in now way similar.. WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE FOOLING??????? It purely about control.
i'd never thought about this... but last night my father asked for my time.
and i told him i didn't have any.
he didn't seem to mind so he went ahead long his way.. .
interesting question and interesting answers. Many reflect my view about what the f* is the constant emphasis on time about? Simply put - statistics. It looks more impressive to say our good little girls and boys put in over 1 trillion bazillion hours of preaching this year bringing Armaggedon closer and closerer. I cant recall deliberatly fudging my hours even when reg. pion.
What I can remember is thinking why is time so important, didnt jesus set the example by how he lived his life and treated people. I cant recall him giving speaches about recording time. When did he ever say blessed are those who spend over 100 hours a month in field service but neglect their family and dont actually help anyone do anything. Blessed are those who have more than two people studying with them at any one time, the kingdom of heaven belongs to them!
I think the org has lost sight of what following Christ was all about - helping where and when we can, leading a good life - drinking wine and helping anyone no matter who they are, showing love to all. Forcing people to lie so statistics look impressive is also not scriptual! Your dad has now lied twice over one small act - once on the paper and once to you. Who's purpose does this serve???? What does this achieve in the end? A person with a guilty conscience and a daughter who doubts? What has it achieved?
i went to my parents' place for supper yesterday.
as usual, i got on the subject of the society.
my mother told me that she talked to a friend of hers about the un thing, and her friend knew about it.
Oooo what did I miss?? UN scandle??? Do tell enquiring minds want to know!
i attended a notorious congregation as a child, the infamous winter gardens congregation!
my cousin and his best friend, both named joe, were elders, my cousin was the po and the other joe was a total loser suck up who wanted to be just like my cousin, joe.
what was even funnier, as i get off point a bit, is that "suck up" joe's wife, cathy, did everything she could do to get her pudgy lil self to dress, look, walk, and talk like my cousin joe's wife, clementine.
Hheheh sorry cant resist this one.. me at one time I actually had my own thoughts on a subject.......great scandle that one... imagine the headlines...sister without husband in the truth dares to have her own thoughts on a subject....elders were seen fuming at a sister who has no husband in the truth for daring to have an individual thought about a subject and making her insight known....elders are dumbfounded how a sister without a husband in the truth could have an individual view... how does this sister dare to be an individual and have her own thoughts, ideas and views on any subject?????? Women can think for themselves cant they??? Lets see what the good word says on the subject............
my finace recently started work at a wage which will take me years to reach even though our qualifications will be about the same.
many women have claimed that the glass ceiling exists and that women are paid less for the same jobs that men do.. what reasons explain this in your mind?
is it because women might have children?
Sorry but only a man would say it was contempible. I have the exact same job as many other men and get paid around $5000 less. Explain that as I am more qualified and have more experience. Coming out of an organisation that preaches equality but in no way practices it you should know better! Of course you are entitled to your opinion based on your experinece but it must be a limited experince. The glass ceiling is alive and kicking and serves to keep women out of all the top jobs.. THe perfect example of that is of course politics, accademia, and business. If there is no such thing aas a glass ceiling why is there so much press about women who hold top positions as unusual and worth writing about? Where are the articles when men make these positions? Of course there arnt any because that is reality. WOmen will never have true equality until they push for it. Ms Greer and her associates started the fight but we have such a long way to go!
hello and greetings from downunder land.
so if this is a place where x jehovah's witnesses talk about stuff and are not promoting the religion why are there links to sites that promote everything witness????
or have i misunderstood what this site is about?
Thanks guys for the explanations and the welcomes. I am so glad it was a case of the host and advertising. I thought that might be the case. It was just that Sassy told me about this board and I was just surprised to find ads that lead you straight to sites that were pro witness! If you have any interesting links please let me know as the more I read the better I feel. I am so anti anything faithwise at the moment. I never thought I would feel like this as I have always had some type of faith! Maybe past experiences with my x have coloured this view somewhat. It still seems as if the cosmos is backing him up and screwing me royally! If there was true justice in this world he would be homeless, living in the street with a broken something festering with infection and so on!
My story is probably not disimmilar to a lot of people. I was adopted by a Beligum couple with a penchant for buggery..my mother was a 15 year old prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet....opps no sorry that isnt my story....HUGE Austin Powers fan! Hhehehehe
No I was raised a Catholic and went to Sunday School even wanted to be a nun but my parents wouldnt let me. I listened to them in everything they did and said. I first met my x when I was 12 at my mum's work. He is 13 years older than me. I met him again when I was 16 and started to work with mum. He hit on me when I was 17 and got under my skin. My parents were against him from the beginning. (Oh how I wish I had their insight!) I married a month before I was 19 and he was about 32 or 33 I think!
Well to say he took advantage of my naivety would be a huge understatement. I had only ever been with one other person and we never...we;; you get the picture.... So what followed was he gradually turned into a psychotic monster and ended up trying to kill me several times. This was after I was a witness and not going to meetings anymore. However during my time as a witness the verbal abuse began and the irratic behaviour and the psychosis began. I realise now that it was because he wanted my whole life to be about him and his needs. The more I did for myself and grew up the worse he got.
I put myself through local colleges and eventually ended up at University where I did a Bachelor of Social Science. Ended up getting great jobs earning lots of money and then the financial abuse began. After I finished uni and started working the physical abuse began. Pushing me, trying to dominate me and such. Ending up with him trying to strangle me. I decided that night the marriage was over and I would save up to leave as I didnt want to move and have nothing to start over with.
That lasted till the end of April last year when he tried to push me through a window and I walked out that night. Ever since I have been living in hiding but now I am at the point where he no longer has any hold over me. I am learning karate and wouldnt hesitate to use it on him and snap his neck if I had to to defend myself. Sounds drastic and horrible but if you knew him you would understand. He is a louse pure and simple. He is defrauding the government and they seem to encourage him to do it. He is the kind of person with his hand out for everything he can get but would not cross the road to help anyone. HE appears to be so sweet and the type who would do anything for you. Behind the scenes he is a manipulative, control freak who would harm to get his way and has. Of course then he turns around and denys it and believes that if he says it didnt happen, well then it didnt!
Forutnatley for me there is evidence! Anyway so much more happened that is not worth going into! I think my time with the organisation was to try to escape the reality at home. A coping mechanism if you will. THings were really bad and got steadily worse. I cant say everyone in the congregation was uncaring, individuals were to a point. THe elders were a disgrace. THe only time I ever heard from them was to tell me how I should be trying harder to bring my husband into the truth or to exact some punishment. I even had an elder say to me that if I didnt like what they were saying it was too bad, I dont have a husband in the truth to stand up for me so more or less there was nothing I could do about it. I left after that.
If I complained about what was happening no one wanted to know and so on. Lets just sarcastically say I did not believe the elders when they talked about how loving the organisation was and supportive and so on. The truth was that women without husbands in the truth could not be handled by the elders. THey were mostly unskilled men who could not cope with life and didnt know what to say or do around people with real problems! In the end Gods word sounded empty and hollow from their lips and I knew it was not the truth and walked out literally during a meeting and never went back. I have not disassociated myself only because I am not sure how to do that! I havent been ready to do so before but I am ready now. I figure that my former so called friends werent really that. As soon as things got bad they told me to stop complaining and do more witnessing. As if that would solve anything! In the end that is only about filling out a silly form to help create impressive statistics for the org.
Anyway this post is long enough so I will sign off and go searching!
hello and greetings from downunder land.
so if this is a place where x jehovah's witnesses talk about stuff and are not promoting the religion why are there links to sites that promote everything witness????
or have i misunderstood what this site is about?
Hello and greetings from downunder land. So if this is a place where x Jehovah's Witnesses talk about stuff and are not promoting the religion why are there links to sites that promote everything witness???? Or have I misunderstood what this site is about? I have looked around different topics and kind of got the impression that this is to reveal the truth behind the truth so to speak and yet you point people back to the society. What am I missing?
