Posts by Andee

Christmas. It's not a religious holiday in our house. It's just pure fun. I get the tallest tree that will fit in my house and light my house up like the Vegas Strip.

Andi,

You wrote,

My JW parents always said, "We don't need to celebrate Christmas. As JW's, we are not restricted to one day a year. We can show our love to each other ALL YEAR LONG!"

I swear my Dad said the SAME EXACT THING every Chrismas when I was a kid!

Andee

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A good laugh, courtesy of WOL

by Trevor Scott in

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if so why then a private forum?

i like the idea of having private things kept private.

not that things are secret just private.

Help & What are the blessings in YOUR life?

by Billygoat in

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these thoughts have been triggered by one of esmerelda's posts about the lesson she learned from her daughter.

if you haven't read it, please do.

it is beautifully written!

I seem to go from one end of the spectrum to the other regarding my feelings about what happened on Sept 11th. The sense of uncertainy that I have had since then has been the ongoing battle that I have been fighting.

After this happened, I was telling my Mother that I seemed the whole country was going through what I went through when my daughter became ill with leukemia. From the moment I got the diagoses, that very second, my priorities changed. Career, house, cars, just stuff became unimportant. My definition of "successful" changed. It wasn't about having a fat bank account anymore. Plus, I dealt with all of the uncertainly of whether or not she was going to live.

I won't go into great detail, but my husband and I really went through some extremely difficult times during her illness. Emotionally and financially. We still feel the effects today. However, I do stop and take notice of the some of the simple things that I find beautiful and comforting.

I do, however, acknowledge there is plenty of uglyness in this world and yes, sometimes, I have to just blank it out. I do what I can to make this a better world, because I am in it, but realize I can't fix everything. I also ask myself, "if I had died in that plane crash, would I have wanted everyone to feel guilty for living a full live and experience joy again"? Well, of course not, I would have wanted everyone to go on.

I don't want anyone to think that I think I am trying to be the voice of those people. It's just a thought when I feel sad for what happened.

Andi, when you get mad about something petty, you might try to stop yourself, and ask what is REALLY going on?I have a tendency to get snappy over something small, when it is something else completely that is bothering me. I know it's hard though in the heat of the moment.

As for the blessings in my life. Well, here goes.

1. My children. My daughter, who is 10, that I nearly lost twice. Once at birth and then a year later when she was diagnosed with Leukemia. She was blessed with a wonderful Dr and medical staff that were so kind and compassionate. My Son, who is 5 and hyper-active. He is so outgoing and cute. My new elderly hungarian neighbors have fallen completely in love with him.

2. My husband. So hardworking, loyal, and sweet. He is understanding of my many quirks and keeps a sense of humor when I go on one of my mini tirades.

3. My Mom. She's a fantasic grandmother and my kids adore her. Her husband (my step-father) is also a terrific "Papaw".

4. My health. Goodness knows I haven't taken the best care of myself, yet, I am in pretty good shape.

5. My friends. I don't make friends easily in the "real" world. I am somewhat shy and standoffish. Not easy to get to know. So, most of my friends go back to childhood or before I got married. I know that if I need something they would be there for me. One is even a born again christian who is privy to my religious background. Yet, she and her husband never try to convert me. They just show me kindness and have done so for nearly 20 years.

6. My sister. Geez, how we used to fight growing up. Now, we actually like each other . She's a computer "genius" and built this computer for me as a Xmas present.

7. I have the most beautiful view of Mt. San Jacinto out my kitchen window. One of the first things I do in the morning is open the blinds and enjoy the scenery.

8. I haven't done one since I was in a car accident in January and broke my foot. However, right before that, I could STILL do a CARTWHEEL! My daughter was trying to learn and was AMAZED I could do one. My husband also got quite a kick out of watching me cartwheel around his Mother's backyard. I will consider myself completely healed when I can complete a perfect cartwheel!
And...I will say..

This discussion Board. I consider most of the many posters on this board to be blessings in my life. I have learned so much. I won't name a single person, but I have gain a clarity that I know I wouldn't have if I hadn't found this place. I am truly grateful for your research and your thoughts and insight.

A very big special thank you to Simon

Andee
(edited because I thought of more things to be grateful for )

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Here's my story (I'm new here)....

by crownboy in

i am a 4th generation witness (on both sides of the family) and indeed my entire family (save for the few who "fall away" in every family) are jehovah's witnesses.

my dad is an elder, my mom a regular pioneer and my two elder sisters the same.

my younger sister is 17 and still unbaptized, so therefore she is sort of a "black sheep" in our family and "spiritually weak" for not having already "taken the dip in the pool" (however, due to her overall open-minded nature, i am perhaps closest to her).

Andee

Hello there, Meranda

Welcome to the board

I don't want to hijack this thread from Crownboy, yet, I have to comment on your post.

but you know how there are things that we don't need to know about until Jehovah lets us in on that lets us in on that

Okay. Well, could you please tell us those things that you know NOW that you didn't need to know THEN?

this probably is not what most people want to hear but
it true

I don't mind hearing it. However, I reserve my right to challenge it.
So, got any proof it's true?

we can't explain everything we have to wait

And when all else fails, WAIT. Wait like my dead grandmother, my father, and all my aging aunts and uncles who were sure paradise would be here long ago. In the mean time, keep pushing those magazines. I mean, you wouldn't want your ticket to paradise to go to someone else, now would you?

Andee

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Here's my story (I'm new here)....

by crownboy in

i am a 4th generation witness (on both sides of the family) and indeed my entire family (save for the few who "fall away" in every family) are jehovah's witnesses.

my dad is an elder, my mom a regular pioneer and my two elder sisters the same.

my younger sister is 17 and still unbaptized, so therefore she is sort of a "black sheep" in our family and "spiritually weak" for not having already "taken the dip in the pool" (however, due to her overall open-minded nature, i am perhaps closest to her).

Andee

Hi Crownboy,

I personally don't think having an inquisitive mind and being a witness are compatable.

Welcome to the board.

Andee

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Are you the one with the answer?

by ring in

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first off, i am not a jw anymore,was one for over 20 years.haven't set foot in the kingdom hall for 9 years.

my question is"why not be truthful about what this site is?

"this site is set up to look at first appearence as a legitimit witness site.why the "front"?if users here are proud of their x-jw status,or are proud of the fact they have left the wbts organization,why isn't this site named x-jehovah witness.com ?

Andee

I really don't know exactly why there's no "ex" in the title.

However, I am willing to speculate.

So, here goes:

Many witnesses find this place by looking for "official" JW sites. They start to read, and lo and behold, they begin to learn the truth about the Org. Lured here by us nasty apostates under false pretenses. he he he.

If the site had "ex" in the title, a loyal JW would automatically deem this site a potential challenge to their spiritual strength and would run for the hills. ahhhhhhhh!

Andee

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Are "you all" morons OR am I the moron?

by Victoria Cruz in

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from what i understand the wtbts is not affiliated with the un but the dpi (department of public information).

if i am right... you all are the morons.

if i am wrong the i am the moron.

Andee

sheesh! Larc!

You have already welcomed me! Dontcha remember????

In fact, you answered one of my "sincere" questions.

It was during the infamous "Noahs Ark" thread

Andee

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Are "you all" morons OR am I the moron?

by Victoria Cruz in

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from what i understand the wtbts is not affiliated with the un but the dpi (department of public information).

if i am right... you all are the morons.

if i am wrong the i am the moron.

Andee

Hey there, VC,

I can't believe the big deal made about the title of the thread lol. Anyone who has read a lot of this forum which I have and thinks it's all about being nicey-wicey and answering "sincere questions" is seriously fooling themselves.

I never said that or even implied that everyone is sweet as sugar on this forum. I have a hard time believing you have read this forum extensively and then are "suprised" by the response of your title subject. I have asked a few, what I consider "naive" questions here and NEVER got a hostile response. I am certainly not "nicey-wicey". In most posts I am certainly not shy about using a cuss word or two

There are hundreds of insults about JW's. But OMG don't even think about putting a negative connotation on anyone but the JW's. That is what I meant in my previous thread about Ex-JWs and hypocrisy.

Yeah, sure, there is some hypocrisy. Just like in the rest of the world. Generally, though, the negative connotations are backed by FACTS. Such as the WTS disassociating themselves from the UN as a NGO after decades of preaching about their evilness. Gee, why would anyone get pissed about that?

Some individuals on here have paid a monumental personal cost by leaving the WTS. Some of lost nearly all their family and friends. They were born to it and are now struggling to put together a life on the "outside". They carry heavy baggage and it sometimes show in their posts. I, as well as you, have a choice on whose opinions you respect and those you ignore.

And what you call the "angry, hostile, and lost souls" maybe they are just being themselves now?

Well, I suppose if they are just being themselves, so be it! They are certainly free to choose to be angry, hostile and lost. However, that is MY opinion, and just like you, I am entitled to it. Anyway, I was referring to the board in general, not YOU in particular.

And just because they don't conform to the "I'm sweet I sugar coat everything, even insults" doesn't mean they are really what you say. I don't have to pretend I'm something that I'm not anymore. And neither should they.

You are right. It doesn't. Again, it's MY opinion. By the way, what were you before? A sincere question, mind you.

Anyway, my dear, you are free to be just about anyway you want on this here DB. However, it's a double edged sword. The posters on here on free to respond to you just about anyway they choose also.

And I do believe you threw out the first "numbskull" to dungbeetle.

Andee

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Are "you all" morons OR am I the moron?

by Victoria Cruz in

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from what i understand the wtbts is not affiliated with the un but the dpi (department of public information).

if i am right... you all are the morons.

if i am wrong the i am the moron.

Andee

Hi Kenny2,

In the midst of all of this "discussion" I wanted to welcome you.

If you have a sincere question, you can always start a separate post.

Unless you use a subject similiar to the one that was used here, I doubt that anyone will call you a moron. There are many kind, compassionate people here. There are also many angry, hostile, and lost souls here too. Thankfully, they are the minority.

Andee