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A Diatribe - Feel Free To Vent With Me

by ZeroKool29 in

fascism machine.

reminder of all that is hateful and wrong.

and supply of faith that was not strong.

Tbo

Garybuss...simma' down now.. <that is a funny>

-this was the rest of that paragraph..... I only meant to say. that maybe you were right on the nose about what I was doing...which I tried to explain in the rest of that paragraph......see highlight..I know venting is great.. everyone needs it.

"I worry when people vent anger... not that venting isn't good b/c it is .. you feel much better after talking about things... but I have seen what happens when people are filled with so much hatred towards something that it eats them up until that is all they think about and they dont' realize that there is ANY other way. < I should've been more clear.. not presuming that he was the same as my friend and that he couldn't manage his anger...>

Have a great one guys! :)

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A Diatribe - Feel Free To Vent With Me

by ZeroKool29 in

fascism machine.

reminder of all that is hateful and wrong.

and supply of faith that was not strong.

Tbo

I guess I can only start by saying that I sent a message to Zerokool29 that I suppose I should've just posted... to say that I wrote impulsively .. I loved the power of his message.. I immediately knew it was very well written.. was just saddened in general by hatred. I wrote that I realized that the hatred may have fed his creations.. and if that was the case then continue to let drives you/steer you.. steer you.. and the positive things that you could write I am sure would be amazing.

As far as the other comments..

Abaddon and others.. I guess the root of the difference is that I don't believe that JW's are a cult.. I do believe that they are misguided and I have researched religion.. I have been to the Holy Roller Church that I wrote about.. I have been frightened by people who speak in tongues.. and have gone to very nice churches where you walk in and they ask for your money.. all that aside...and I guess to answer your other question regarding blood.. my note is that I don't want to be a JW...so I wouldn't profess to thinking that i was a true JW unless I agreed with their beliefs on blood.... so I wouldn't profess to be one without believing what they believe.. same as my respect for ANYONE's religion.. I will not profess to be one unless I fully understand... hence I was never baptized.. and never went through dealing with disfellowshipment.. I did however deal with friends that were.. dealth with friends that committed suicide.. dealt with friends that were "the model pioneers" that were having premarital sex and getting drunk.. etc.. not to go on.. but I have and actually still am taking classes and studying... my curiousity brought me to this site... not b/c I hate or feel like I need to vent really.. was just curious as to how other people research religions and what they think about structure and creation and life in general.

Garybuss... maybe you are right on the nose.. :) I worry when people vent anger... not that venting isn't good b/c it is .. you feel much better after talking about things... but I have seen what happens when people are filled with so much hatred towards something that it eats them up until that is all they think about and they dont' realize that there is ANY other way. < I should've been more clear.. not presuming that he was the same as my friend and that he couldn't manage his anger...>

Zerokool29- I didn't mean to criticize your writing .. my intent was to compliment.. I apologize that my compliment and comments got lost in what was taken as just criticizm.. anyway.. I read alot and go to school and work for a major corporation.. I see writings all the time.. I even have friends that write for publication and have never been overly impressed with any of them. Your writing.. driven by whatever it was driven by was very very good... keep it up. ;) I would hate to see (read) you bound. <that is just a joke..ha ha? ;))

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A Diatribe - Feel Free To Vent With Me

by ZeroKool29 in

fascism machine.

reminder of all that is hateful and wrong.

and supply of faith that was not strong.

Tbo

My only comment was that as children we are taught things by our teachers, parents, and as Jehovah's Witnesses .. our elders, etc. We take what they say as gospel. Most of the direction we receive is b/c people are teaching us what THEY think is best...whether or not it is. I don't hate the people. They can only teach me for a while.. then I make my own decisions.. it is this thing called Free Will..

Do I believe that the example with the coach and JW's are the exact same? No, you missed my point. I was trying to compare where you steer your hatred to... The coach steered the team wrong... In his opinion JW's are tyring to steer him wrong... Do you hate the coach who steered you wrong? Why hate JW's who steered you wrong? Guess what? in the end.. they can't .. you make the decisions yourself.

I don't think that the discussion around abstaining from blood is any differnt than having a conversation regarding abortion, homosexuality or any other topic that is widely debated. I was raised a Jehovah's Witness.. and understand that EVERY religion has something that people find offensive. Have you ever been to a Holy Roller Church? I am not a big believer in the "speaking of tongues"... what about "dont' use contraception" .. God will control what happens......how about a little snake handling in the name of faith and God? I dare say the Catholic religion with their open acceptance of gays and their support of WWI/II makes me want to sign up......I do not want to debate this with anyone.. as my point is that those are beliefs of REAL religions. My point is how are they any different?

Anyway.. my remark was made to let the gentleman know that hatred doesn't do anything but breed more hatred. Every salesman, evangelist, etc. is out to screw with your head if you let them. So the "journey of self discovery" and the determination to stand on your own to feet and find your own way is more important.

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A Diatribe - Feel Free To Vent With Me

by ZeroKool29 in

fascism machine.

reminder of all that is hateful and wrong.

and supply of faith that was not strong.

Tbo

No.. and I haven't for ..almost 5 years now. My family is split.. my mother and little sister are still very active. But my other brothers and sisters are all living peaceful happy lives. My mother is forced to deal with the situation. However, ex friends are not so understanding. Which... I deal with everyday.. and everyday I believe it makes me a stronger person. I fight harder to become who I am and not who they want me to be.

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A Diatribe - Feel Free To Vent With Me

by ZeroKool29 in

fascism machine.

reminder of all that is hateful and wrong.

and supply of faith that was not strong.

Tbo

No.. I do not hear the caged canary. I have just realized that there is more to my life than wasting energy on hating people. They do not hate you. They just think that they know better. Wrong or right.. I am a strong vibrant person ... well able to move on from the teachings of a group that thought they knew... it was simple. In my world they didn't.

I have surrounded myself with intelligent, warm, life-lving and enjoying people who encourage me to do what I want, be better, push myself instead of letting others push me. I feel exhilerated now.

Somewhere I have heard that... people don't make you do things.. they can't make you hate them. You choose to hate them because of the things that they do. I choose not to hate them but to not waste my energy on them... and that goes for more than just JW's...

You can't change some things, but you can draw strength from it. I wish everyone was able to feel so content with themselves.

For those that can't... Enjoy the "cage" of your own making.

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A Diatribe - Feel Free To Vent With Me

by ZeroKool29 in

fascism machine.

reminder of all that is hateful and wrong.

and supply of faith that was not strong.

Tbo

It is so sad... such a beautiful writer.. such talent.. so filled with hatred. And for who? for what? Why hate Jehovah's Witnesses? any more so than any other religion? any more so than politicians? Enron? other major companies that have screwed people over? what about the coach who called the wrong play b/c he thought he knew what was best for the team and then they lost? You are only here for a short time. If you feel you may not know what is always right, but you know what is wrong... then there is your start. Find your own way. Make your own rules. Don't rely or feed off hatred.. or you just become what they say you will become. Bitter.

These are my thoughts ... steer your energy toward something good.. something you love. You will succeed. You have a great talent.

Tbo