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  So, what brought you here?

  by onacruse in

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  back in the 90s (i think it was '96?

  ) was the first time i punched in "jehovah's witnesses" on google.

  the "generation" change had finally flipped me, and i knew in my heart that i would never again be the "happy little jw" that i'd once been.. well, lemme just say that the "vigor" .

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  allo all, Approximately 3 weeks ago, a friend forwarded an email to me regarding the submission by some whacks to the UN about eliminating religion worldwide. I thought this was quite stupid but decided to do a search for the site of the group 'formulism' which of course was down, the link wouldn't work. So I searched and searched on the net for the actual article without a lotta luck. Somehow, this site came up for whatever reason, and I, having been inactive for about a year and in decline for 5 yrs, was very ripe for the picking from all you awful apostates :) uhhhh, thanks by the way heh heh Anyway, I lurked for a week, during which I picked up coc at the library and somwhere in there joined as a member. This is the first site of this nature I've ever joined, and really appreciate the environment for what it is. Excess negativity would only turn me away regardless of subject and in particular this subject (becoming exjw) is one I want to move on from, not wallow in only negativity. (ok some whining is fun) boa 'who floated here on a red carpet called destiny'
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  This year's new releases!!!

  by Nosferatu in

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  okay people, time to guess what new releases they're going to have at the 2004 district convention.

  (btw, anyone know the "theme" of the convention for this year yet?).

  i'll bet any money we'll get another shitty brochure.

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  Knowledge That Leads to Everlasting Strife (updated)

  Questions YOUNG PEOPLE ASK Answers That Suck (Volume 3)

  Uniformity in Worship of the Only True God (Updated, with ALL references to Jesus removed)

  For Elders a new manual: Lording it Over the Flock!

  For Pioneers a new manual: Shining as Obfuscaters in the World but not Part of the World

  The Light that Keeps Flashing

  boa
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  What Was The Worst Rule You Hated Being Under As A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  heh heh, minimus, great gum story - yer a hardcore rebel! I like it.

  k, a few I could think of

  Not preparing for advanced education - even though I was I had a full academic course load and passed with high grades in math, sciences, electronics, and computers. I graduated and promptly began to clean someones toilet for a few years while pioneering.

  I had a very strict but hypocritical step-dad who forbade most music - especially rock. Later, when I was still at home, he forbade me talking to my future wife (also a reg. pio) cuz he thought we were too young according to the society's interpretation of the 'bloom of youth'.

  I've never really believed or understood prohibition against birthdays and intend to celebrate this year.

  As a kid, standing out in the hall during the anthem while a couple hundred saw us on the other side of the door sucked. The rule against eating hot dogs with 'animal byproducts' especially during sports day sucked, but at least our parents usually brought 'beef only' weiners for us. Feeling bad about doing the cake walk raffle during 'fun night' sucked.

  The youth books prohibition against masterbation in all its evils sucked big time. Talk about an extrememly damaging guilt trip dealing with this normal desire! I guess the 2% who don't partake in this horrible sin (male statistic) at some point in their life are all other jws - thats what I figured. Jeece, my overbearing, frightening and domineering step-dad dared ask me if this was a 'problem' one day when I was around 16 and my heart nearly stopped, my liver turned to jelly, my knees knocked and somehow I got out of it without actually lying. Another time he asked whether I looked at girls behinds ever cuz doncha know that is a sin too and could lead to heavy intercourse I guess. To that question I just agreed with whatever he was saying and remembered fondly the last lassy's ass I had checked out at school (again I was around 16 yrs old).

  Man I could go on and on - basically all the things the society goes 'undoubtably', 'evidently', 'perhaps', 'quite possibly meant this', 'quite likely' on, with regards to conduct suck suck suck.

  boa

  'you touch that thing twice and yer playin' with it!'
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  Incense Burning - Geez, These Guys Have a Rule For Everything!

  by worldlygirl in

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  there seems to be a problem with incense burning now!

  this is from the watchtower website: http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/2003/6/1/article_01.htm.

  a) they are running out of crap to publish.

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  uhhh gitasatsangha, is your topsy turvey avatar a test to see how many will notice??? hmmm???

  its kewl nonetheless whatever its 'orientation' heh heh

  boa
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  Incense Burning - Geez, These Guys Have a Rule For Everything!

  by worldlygirl in

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  there seems to be a problem with incense burning now!

  this is from the watchtower website: http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/2003/6/1/article_01.htm.

  a) they are running out of crap to publish.

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  cyber-sista You make a great point with the 'stumbling' tactic. Although in that particular quote you used, they don't use the 's' word, I agree it would be what one would generally think of before burning incense and considering 'the feelings of others'. I'd love to turn this great concern for possibly 'stumbling' others in smaller things, to a very important matter to me, namely, the covert and overt deception of the wts in a variety of subjects and issues. In reality, I have been 'stumbled' out of the org by the GB! and possibly any future christianity. At this point I would prefer to believe in a God and in some future hope but am also willing to let the chips fall where they may (like I have a choice anyway) if there is no such hope and belief in reality. Its kinda early to know where this all will lead. I've long considered that people who could possibly be stumbled by such ridiculous things like this subject and others (like a well trimmed beard), really either need to grow up and/or learn more about the world they live in, its wonderful diversity, its grey nature when it comes to beliefs, standards of conduct, and traditions - I like to call it being self-aware. just my opinion of course, boa
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  Somebody talk to me

  by Puternut in

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  i am having one of those really down days.

  things aren't going right.

  i can't concentrate on my work, and i don't feel well.

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  k, i'll talk for a sec

  hang in there, and in some very dark moments of my life, lack of sleep definitely encouraged the dark outlook (there were problems no doubt but they were MUCH worse being tired or thinking about them late at night)

  also, in some dark depressing times well after being an 'active' jw, prayer to Jehovah actually helped to comfort me - my theory of this is that prayer helps us to hash out our feelings and refocus again more than any mystical benefit

  just what helped me cope, everyones different

  take care,

  boa
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  My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 3

  by Simon in

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  for me, the walls of the watchtower were not destroyed by a single giant cannon-ball but rather every brick had been weakened and suddenly the whole thing just 'collapsed'.. i've alwys been an avid reader and a firm believer that you can learn anything and everything from a good book.

  anyway, i was reading a bad book, the creation book, and this time things were different.. normally, the mere thought that the wts could "not be right" could not even be contemplated.

  it was like you can't even comprehend the concept or understand the question, least of all imagine it.. yet now, i read the book and things were screaming at me from the pages.

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  hi Simon,

  thanks again for your story and this site. I feel I have a common story when you said

  For me, the walls of the watchtower were not destroyed by a single giant cannon-ball but rather every brick had been weakened and suddenly the whole thing just 'collapsed'.

  I've been five years out of bethel working through my own tumultous crisis of faith, then 2 weeks ago I end up here at this site and all the wt bricks have collapsed for me as well.

  boa

  will 'keep on the watch' for the rest of the story...
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  This Forum.....What Benefit is Is thesedays?

  by ScoobySnax in

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  firstly .......i don't mean for one minute the end of friendships that may have been cultivated here.....or the "help" that may have been extended to those who needed it.... there are some good people here.

  but......... but...... how often can the same old topics be bounced about and re-cycled amongst the topic threads here, usually created by the same few, for an imaginary multitude that i just don't see.

  ok you say many may look in here, and may not comment.

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  maybe a newbie to an inet site like this, but not in life - this guy don't deserve jack.
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  For Celtic - A New Home $8,000

  by jgnat in

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  click on the link below, and voila.. http://www.saskatoonagents.com/cudworth/saskatchewan/homes/area_7_-_saskatoon/cudworth/listing_76327.html.

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  sounds like a good deal. if yer even moderately well off, you can bulldoze the shack (or save it for yer dog) and build a new one

  boa
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  The Preaching Work: A Colossal Waste of Time

  by Scully in

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  many people who post here have had similar experiences to my own: x number of years going door-to-door, informal witnessing, placing books, magazines, doing return visits, but having no one ever come into the truth?

  by virtue of their efforts.. members of my own family who are still jws similarly have nothing to show for their trouble of regularly engaging in the ministry over many years (decades, actually).. any guesstimates out there as to how much of your life you wasted participating in the preaching work?

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  jv, hopefully I won't go to any more conventions - I'm gonna work on getting out of the one friends are coming up here to stay with us on this summer.

  but yes, I did pioneer 1yr ox, 4 yrs reg and 1 yr special full time as they call bethel. Still have my 'shining as illuminators book' , in fact was rifling through and boxing stuff up when I found it. I was on several conventions with pio experiences or skits etc etc etc.

  Any regrets? I 'shun' regrets as they pop up cuz I can't change the past (still waiting for that Star Trek whip around the sun thing to go to the past to become available - Star Trek IV). However, I'm licking my wounds at the whole tragic comedy of my life in the org.

  However, most of pioneering time was spent with some really fun people (avoid going out with the non-fun ones) and the greatest difficulty I had was financially - very stressful. I studied with several but none straight through to baptism. Jeece I wish they had changed the hour requirement while I was still reg pio.

  Also, a side point to all you who reg pioneered, remember when a publisher would do his(or her) once a year ox pio and they were all serious and hardcore on their time and hours - what downers imo!

  I also, while reg pio, about a year before b, started using the Bible more and more and also began to evermore appreciate studies and good rvs over door-to-door.

  Funny how if yer a bro, pioneering pretty much leads to 'fast-tracking' for ms, elder, bethel etc.

  boa

  ok now i gotta lick some wounds i just remembered again