Posts by Incognito

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The great R.B.C rip off!!!

by karter in

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friends

i was on a job last week and the p.o from my old congro was there and told me they had just re modled the k.h.the r.b.c quoted them $240.000 they did it for $120.000 so why the big diffrence in price??

?.

Incognito

I had understood that because WT 'forgave' all KH mortgages and demanded all congregation funds in excess of $5K be sent to WT, any KH remodels, add-ons or rebuilds are to be at WT's expense as apparently, WT were taking over ownership of each KH. Of course, WT first stated there were so many KH projects needed but over the following year, very few actually progressed.

Was I misinformed or misunderstand that individual congregations are no longer required to raise their own funds for work on their own KHs? If they are still to raise their own funds, how is any money above $5K banked locally?

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What's preventing YOU from stopping meeting attendance?

by nicolaou in

we all 'exit' in our own way and at our own pace but i'm curious, why carry on stuffing yourself into that stiff suit and tie or meeting dress years after you realised the truth about 'the truth'?.

they kept you a prisoner, what's stopping you from leaving now that you have the key to your own cell?.

loved ones?

Incognito

They are still the only ones teaching the Truth - the Question

But are they teaching the truth about 'The Truth'?

It appears many of us have a different understanding of what truth is, than you do.

JW friend told me that I'm "bad association" - SBF

You're not if you're not associating.

Our household stopped attending some years back. While personal matters initially caused irregular attendance for a few months, once becoming educated on the real 'Truth', we each made the decision to stop attending fully.

Some JW family have cut us off completely while others have reduced contact and are more cautious when we are together.

We view any lost/reduced relationships as their losses. They made a decision to cut us off or reduce contact and they retain the power to change that decision.

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JW.org website and Matt 6:1-4

by NikL in

jw
friends

saw the news story on jw.org this morning about all the help they are sending to congo after flooding there.

yay for them!

oh wait!.

Incognito

I haven't read the trumpeting on this matter but wonder how much assistance WT has actually provided? Usually, WT doesn't do much of anything but takes credit for actions of individual JWs who commit their time and resources to assist at their own expense.

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Sisters as Ministerial Servants?

by Spoletta in

my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.

she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.

anyone else pick up on this?

Incognito

You only need to watch Geoffrey Jackson's reaction to the Australia Royal Commission's suggestion that women be involved in assisting victim's of child sexual abuse, to know the answer to this question.

Jackson's testimony can be seen on youtube.

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Paedophiliac

by midnight in

i don't think jehovah likes paedophiliac behaviour .

has anyone got a reference to an article anywhere that shows watchtower giving council that paedophiliac thoughts , feelings , leanings are wrong ?

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Incognito

RO - How do your comments address Midnight's question posed in the original post?

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Irregular to meetings, can I partake in memorial?

by Squekylive in

hi friends .

i don't believe in jw doctrines anymore but because of family i have to be a jw for now.. i am not regular to meetings, and don't answer in meeting, but i report some hours so i remain as active jw now.. .

congregation knows that i am not spiritual and i don't talk to people and i don't care what they think about me.. now, i believe it's important to observe lord's supper as a christian as per john 6:53, so in the coming memorial if i attend i want to partake in the communion,.. i believe it is a sin to pass the bread and wine inspite of knowing it's flesh and blood of jesus.. it's like rejecting jesus.. so i want to partake.. but i dont consider i am anointed etc.

Incognito

But is there anyway they can DF me?

While I have never heard anyone being DF'd for participating, remember, it's their club. They set the rules and they can change the rules as they see fit. There are actions which now commonly result in DF'ing although not so in the past.

Consider smoking. Although frowned upon previously, it later became a DF'ing offense.

Christmas had been celebrated at Bethel previously, but later became something a JW could/would be DF'd for observing.

I understand Ray Franz had been the first person to be DF'd for associating (eating a meal) with a DA'd ex-JW.

They somewhat recently adopted a new reason - Brazen conduct. I do not believe this term was defined in stone and might be referenced when other reasons don't fit. Some here have speculated that it could include not adhering to the counsel and dictates of the GB or Elders, which then could include rejecting WTBTS doctrine which you would be expected to know and understand as a baptized JW.

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Irregular to meetings, can I partake in memorial?

by Squekylive in

hi friends .

i don't believe in jw doctrines anymore but because of family i have to be a jw for now.. i am not regular to meetings, and don't answer in meeting, but i report some hours so i remain as active jw now.. .

congregation knows that i am not spiritual and i don't talk to people and i don't care what they think about me.. now, i believe it's important to observe lord's supper as a christian as per john 6:53, so in the coming memorial if i attend i want to partake in the communion,.. i believe it is a sin to pass the bread and wine inspite of knowing it's flesh and blood of jesus.. it's like rejecting jesus.. so i want to partake.. but i dont consider i am anointed etc.

Incognito

amoung my JW family, they would be schocked if I am not present in the memorial! and would create unwanted sorrow in the family.

And you don't consider partaking would do the same thing?

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My Dad wants to study with me

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

Incognito

As a son, and almost 18, - Spiral

Son: - Undercover

I think BlackWolf is female.

While I too am against this study, according to WT, it is your father's obligation to "take the lead" and study every week with those in his "household". If he's not doing that, he is not living up to his "dedication" and "headship", not that you want to necessarily throw that at him.

Perhaps agree to the 'study', at least until the assembly has past. If he's anything similar to my father which by your comments, he appears to be, he will by then have lost interest and the pressure on you will be lessened for a time.

I agree with other comments regarding your becoming baptized will only feed your father's ego and need for approval. My father only held a family 'study' when he was short on hours while trying to be appointed as elder. If he had enough hours, he didn't give a damn about family study, or about family for that matter.

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Thread Post View Is Stuck At 10 & Can't Be Changed!

by Divergent in

i browse this site on mobile and noticed that the thread post view is now stuck at 10. previously, i could set it at 20 and it stays that way, but now if i set it at 20, it goes back to 10 again the moment i click on another topic.

i hope that you can look into this as it is extremely irritating for me to keep having to change it.

i want to view as many posts as possible in one page!

Incognito

I notice today that this issue appears to be resolved. Thank you Simon.

I wanted to acknowledge the correction as not only complaints should be reported.

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Thread Post View Is Stuck At 10 & Can't Be Changed!

by Divergent in

i browse this site on mobile and noticed that the thread post view is now stuck at 10. previously, i could set it at 20 and it stays that way, but now if i set it at 20, it goes back to 10 again the moment i click on another topic.

i hope that you can look into this as it is extremely irritating for me to keep having to change it.

i want to view as many posts as possible in one page!

Incognito

The changes Simon made did not correct the issue but in some ways, made it worse.

I notice now when I click for 20 posts to be displayed per page, the posts displayed doesn't always change from 10 but often, the final page is then displayed.

Although I have flushed the browser cache on all my various devices, this issue is common to each.