Posts by Incognito

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What would you say?

by Freedom rocks in

if you had 2 minutes with an old witness friend or with a family member to convince them the 'truth' is a lie and the gb isnt being directed by god what would you say to get their attention that might make them question their beliefs?.

Incognito

The best would be to offer to be supportive and a hearing ear IF they ever want to talk ... about anything.

WT has well programmed JWs to ignore their doubts and reject negative info regarding the religion, but simply put faith that God chose this organization and GB as his earthly representatives. Even if what is taught doesn't make sense or is opposite to what was taught a short time ago, the GB attribute that to increased understanding as supported by God's arrangement. Any opposition to this is equated to opposition to God and 'the truth'.

Although you may want to wake JWs up to the real truth about the org, until a JW comes to the realization there is something wrong and starts to question matters for his or her self, there is nothing you can say that will force them to accept what you say and any attempt will cause them to turn against you.

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Snake In My Fridge

by finallysomepride in

i just now went to get meat from my fridge to cook, took the meat out & shut the door as i shut the door i thought i saw a piece of rope in the six pack i had just opened & had removed 2 cans, already drunk 1.. open the door again & there i saw what i thought was a piece of rope, but i look a bit closer ...... shit it's a friggin snake, bugger i had only just taken two cans out wtf.. .

Incognito

that was satan incognito come to have a chat wiff you - atomant

How'd you know my first name is Satan!

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Thanks For being helpful

by Jrjw in

to the person who reported me to the elders from here - thank you for making me be able to leave the organisation a whole lot easier and sooner than i'd planned.

you did me a huge favour 😊.

Incognito

Too bad that you were outed but in all fairness, you did leave enough breadcrumbs that wouldn't be difficult to follow, especially for JWs in your area.

Unless you provided untrue information, not only did you reveal the general area where you lived previously, but also the area you relocated to as well as the moving date and background of your new landlord. You discussed the ages and genders of your children, your own age and the status and background of your marriage, your husband's relationship history and when you first became a JW.

Remember, this is a public forum which anyone can easily register an account to access restricted areas, even if they don't plan to ever post.

It's great that being outed works-out for you and your children.

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Cart Witnessing Is Getting People Baptzed!!!🐑🐑

by minimus in

jw
friends

recently i talked to an elder about this type of witnessing.

i’ve known him for many years and he is a very honest upright man.

he marveled at how many people have become baptized in the last couple of years because of cart witnessing.

Incognito

I know this guy and he isn’t a liar. - minimus

Probably more a matter of perspective.

I suspect there is are at least a few people who first become interested from obtaining literature from a cart, who move forward to studying or becoming full JWs. If the carts didn't have any success, then why keep doing it? It would be an un-motivator if JWs attending the carts never see anything positive for their efforts.

Other causes for congregation attendance growth include locations which offer benefits such as nearby jobs, new development, ease of transportation, reasonable living costs or activities for retirees, thereby causing outsiders to relocate there including JWs from other areas.

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ARC Information pack received in relation to my help, assistance, evidence and testimony

by jwleaks in

this was sent to me by the arc for assisting and providing evidence and testimony in relation to jehovah's witnesses, the watchtower bible & tract society of australia, terrence o'brien, vincent toole, and geoffrey jackson of the governing body.. photo 1. a thank you letter, final report, summary brochures of the entire arc, every single case study and related document on a usb memory stick.. photo 2. close up of official arc usb memory stick with every single case study every single report and all the documents used.. photo 3. this arrived last year.

case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses.

i sent this official hardcopy to barbara anderson as a gift for all her hard work.. .

Incognito

there were 1006 instances of child abuse reported to them

It is not 1006 instances (victims), but 1006 perpetrators. The number of victims is actually specified as 1730.

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I've Disassociated. It's getting announced tomorrow.

by Heathen Dan in

jw
friends

this is my first post to this site, im pale.emperor's brother:).

first of all, i've left being a jw in june.

since then my family have tried to convince me it's "the truth" and force me to go back even though it's my own decision.

Incognito

Hi Dan,

Welcome to the forum.

Don't worry about the guy suing you. Talk is cheap and people often make ridiculous statements especially when they don't know what they are talking about.

Since your carer resigned, he has no grounds to say you terminated him. Where is his proof? Did he resign in writing? Even if he consults a lawyer, a lawyer with even basic knowledge would advise, he has no grounds for action.

How much notice did the carer provide before he stopped working for you? I don't know if there are minimum requirements in the UK but if notice wasn't sufficient, if anything, you might have grounds for action against him.

Enjoy your new life!

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disfellowshipped and looking to find someone in the same possition

by whatisgoingonpls in

where can i find a disfellowshipped wife ;)

Incognito

If she wants to go back thats cool for her.

This statement above makes the question "where can I find a disfellowshipped wife" rather confusing and redundant.

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Just thinking.....i

by Bigdummy in

jw
friends

i made a couple of comments the other day on this forum and i hadn’t realized it had.

been so long.

my history shows i joined 3 years ago.

Incognito

In other words don`t offer the cong. healthful words of encouragement in a loving manner but whip them into submission with a big stick.

WT's unwritten moto: The beatings will not stop until morale improves.

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What's out there?

by Jrjw in

someone asked me what does the world have to offer if left the truth?

'coz i'm still in the process of leaving i just said i don't feel i fit in the truth or the world.

she's known me for 12 years and she's the 3rd person recently to say i've changed.

Incognito

That question is intended to force you to take your mind off leaving and raise doubt that leaving is the correct course of action. Many JWs have an attitude that even if not God's organization, they wouldn't want to go anywhere else.

You have identified for yourself that the religion is flawed and is not 'The Truth' chosen by God. Once those conclusions are reached, there is no longer reason to remain a member, even if you haven't decided what else to do.

If your house was on fire, before leaving you wouldn't stop to question where you and your children would go or what the outside offers, but you would grab your kids and get out to save your lives. Once out and safe, you can then worry about the next steps to take.

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My younger brother officially Disassociated today

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.

just wanted to share this with you as it's kind of got me worried.

my brother who was also raised in "the truth™" met me in town today for a coffee.

Incognito

To me the elders are essentially telling your brother in a subtle way that due to his Asperger's - he doesn't know what he's doing and they are trying to take his free will away from him. - flipper

They imply this when he indicates he wants no further part in the religion, yet they accept he is capable to fully understand being baptized and they wouldn't hesitate to punish with disfellowshipping if he committed an offense against the religion's requirements.