Posts by Incognito

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Should I just tell my parents

by BlackWolf in

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friends

lately i've been feeling just so fed up with this stupid religion i really can't take it anymore!

i'm starting to think that maybe i should just tell my parents how i really feel.

if they treat me too badly or kick me out i could probably stay with my non jw aunt.. ive just reached my breaking point, i don't really care what people think of me anymore.

Incognito

As soon I save up some money and get a car, I am out of here.

Rethink your priorities as a car will consume plenty of money so that you probably won't have much left for anything else. Leaving is not dependent on a car.

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Should I just tell my parents

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

lately i've been feeling just so fed up with this stupid religion i really can't take it anymore!

i'm starting to think that maybe i should just tell my parents how i really feel.

if they treat me too badly or kick me out i could probably stay with my non jw aunt.. ive just reached my breaking point, i don't really care what people think of me anymore.

Suggest you start expressing that you want to attend high school - no more home schooling. That will give you a much needed break away from home and will provide opportunity for interaction with others while also permitting you to earn a recognized HS diploma. A HS diploma should assist in the option of further education if you should decide to pursue it (do pursue it).

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All posts now indicated as occurring 1 hour ago

by Incognito in

simon,.

wanted to advise that all postings are now showing as being posted 1 hour ago, even when uploaded within the past few minutes.

using chrome browser on win 10 32 bit home..

Incognito

Thank you Simon!

I had thought the issues were forum upgrade related as my computer's time was/is shown correctly and have always indicated the posting time properly.

Even after doing as you suggested, rechecking the time and clearing browser cache & rebooting the system, the most recent JWC posting time remained incorrect. Although my system's time was correct, only after resetting the time settings manually, resulted in the JWC posting time being shown correctly.

I notice that the Active Topic page continue to show the posting previews with all lower case letters and there are additional periods also inserted at the end of every preview sentence.

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All posts now indicated as occurring 1 hour ago

by Incognito in

simon,.

wanted to advise that all postings are now showing as being posted 1 hour ago, even when uploaded within the past few minutes.

using chrome browser on win 10 32 bit home..

Incognito

I notice too that the topic preview page show all Capital Letters as lower case.

I had intended to add this comment to my initial post but the edit button is now not available.

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All posts now indicated as occurring 1 hour ago

by Incognito in

simon,.

wanted to advise that all postings are now showing as being posted 1 hour ago, even when uploaded within the past few minutes.

using chrome browser on win 10 32 bit home..

Incognito

Simon,

Wanted to advise that all postings are now showing as being posted 1 hour ago, even when uploaded within the past few minutes. Using Chrome browser on Win 10 32 bit Home.

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I'm getting disfellowshipped

by raven in

hi everyone, a bit of an update here on my continuing disaster of a situation.. (refer to my previous posts for the full story) my mom met with me yesterday for dinner, it was nice.. however, she brought up the fact that because i live with my boyfriend and how everything has gone down, i will be disfellowshipped.. i think the elders basically have enough proof of this.. due to the anonymous tipper (still have no clue who it was, i live in another town 100's of miles away from my old congregation territory), and my mom telling them.

i'm not sure when they will announce it, or if they will contact me prior.. at this point i feel so emotionally dead i don't care- on the other hand, i don't want to be disfellowshipped because i do not want to loose a relationship with my mom.

that is the whole reason i tried fading out.. .

Incognito

I know that JW elders think they are exempt from adhering to people's rights, you are an adult subject to an expectation to privacy.

I suspect your mother made-up the story but if the elder's did divulge that information without an official announcement, they need to be taken to task legally over discussing private and disparaging information with others which includes your mother. They have no cause other than hearsay as they haven't spoken to you on the matter.

In court, they claim clergy privilege over not providing private information to the court even when they discuss private details to other elders, the CO and WT.

The change from announcing to the congregation the specific reason for disfellowshipping, to announcing 'conduct unbecoming a christian' and then changing to 'so-and-so is no longer considered a JW', is not without reason.

Don't be down but become angry and have your say through a lawyer over how your privacy and good name are being trampled-on and disregarded.

Perhaps if you mention to your mother that you plan to take legal action against the elders, she will fess-up that she made-up the story.

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FYI My JW mom and Alzheimer's

by scary21 in

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friends

one year ago today my mom passed away.

she was 91 years old.

it has been really hard on me because i never expected what happened, to.have happened.

Incognito

Alzheimer disease is only one form of dementia but because it is the most common, the various types are often lumped together under the one name, similar to calling all brands of tissue - 'Kleenex'. Each type have similarities but have differing symptoms, behavior patterns and speed of progression.

A PET scan can give some indication to the dementia type but may not be definitive and the procedure maybe upsetting to the patient. As there is no treatment procedure for any type of dementia, a scan is not often bothered with.

Elderly people are also susceptible to urinary tract infections which can cause extreme changes in behavior, which include often severe confusion and forgetfulness and so may appear to be a dementia condition. Behavior change can be brought on as suddenly as turning on a light switch.

Having been a caregiver to a close relative with dementia, I can relate to Rebelfighter's and your experience and offer my respect, sympathy and condolences to you and all those dealing with these illnesses.

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Help needed: transgender people and other unclear topics

by TeaBiscuit in

first of all, i am not quite sure whether this is the right place to ask my questions.

if this is not really appropriate, please tell me in advance, but i really did not know who to turn to, so i thought why not ask the internet... now, i know many of you are apostates and i'm not really looking for "leave it all behind you" answers, but really for experiences, thoughts and ideas... as well as maybe some verses if you can think of any.. anyway, first things first.

since this is very anonymous and i'd like to keep it that way, i will not give you my name, but still, i think some background info might be helpful.

Incognito

I did not want to upset or even hurt any of you.

This group is highly diversified and resilient so I doubt anyone would be offended if your questions are sincere and respectful. Although most of this group are ex-JWs, there is nothing for anyone here to win or loose in answering your questions honestly.

While you may expect your questions to receive truthful answers from JWs, if the true answer doesn't reflect positively on the organization, then the answer may be vague, not completely truthful or there maybe a change of subject so your question may not receive an answer.

Now is the proper time to ask questions. After baptism is too late as you are then considered to have forever committed your life to the organization. If you think JW baptism is a dedication to God, review the 2 vows every candidate must verbally confirm just before changing clothes to enter the baptism pool.

Your answer on Bible study confirms that you did not actually study the Bible but only books giving WT interpretations including their opinion on what the bible is saying.

You previously mentioned that you started preparing the questions to ready yourself for baptism. Where in the bible does it even suggest that answering questions is a requirement for baptism? If that was God's requirement, wouldn't the bible clearly state that?

I'm not telling you what to believe but I am attempting to help you realize to not blindly accept everything you're shown because it sounds nice or is what you want to hear. You are responsible for yourself and you need to do your own independent research before committing to anything, not just a religion.

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Help needed: transgender people and other unclear topics

by TeaBiscuit in

first of all, i am not quite sure whether this is the right place to ask my questions.

if this is not really appropriate, please tell me in advance, but i really did not know who to turn to, so i thought why not ask the internet... now, i know many of you are apostates and i'm not really looking for "leave it all behind you" answers, but really for experiences, thoughts and ideas... as well as maybe some verses if you can think of any.. anyway, first things first.

since this is very anonymous and i'd like to keep it that way, i will not give you my name, but still, i think some background info might be helpful.

Incognito

Gender change is not something that is typically discussed within the organization.

Any type of alteration to a person such as tattoos and piercings including ears, is not generally accepted as WT had years ago considered those things as a form of unnatural mutilation. I do not recall WT ever officially changing its position on that matter although I could be mistaken. Little maybe said if the person already had those things before becoming a JW but depending on the congregation elders, if a JW congregant obtained a tattoo or had their child's ears pierced, they could be taken aside to be counseled.

Homosexuality is routinely degraded and is considered within the JW religion as an illness so acceptance as to a person's sexual orientation if not heterosexual, is not accepted.

Females are not permitted to wear pants to the KH (and to some, not truly acceptable anywhere). Likewise, males are not to dress in female clothing, even if for a costume party or a part in a play.

Although I haven't directly answered your question, I think you may appreciate that a gender modification would not be acceptable.

TeaBiscuit said:

that was also the time I started studying the bible with them.

Did you actually study the bible or only WT books that referred to various bible scriptures that were chosen to appear to support the point the book was attempting to make? Perhaps you may wish to go back to re-read those scriptures including the chapter before and after the chosen scripture, to verify what was referred to, is in context.

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Do you play the lottery?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

for me, i have only purchased just one powerball ticket in my life, that was few years ago and i am thinking about buying some more in the near future.

maybe i should push my luck even more this time.

i am going to buy 10 tickets.

Incognito

Even as a JW, I always considered that if the person can afford to play, I considered it as a personal decision but not something that should be discussed.

While I didn't play as a JW, I have since leaving although initially, was paranoid that any JWs were around that would see.

NVR2L8 said on page 1: but more recent WT articles said that the money was dirty because it is raised through a practice that displeases God.

So, does this mean that if a person (JW or not) won money in the lottery and decided to donate some to WT, WT would then decline the donation as the money was 'dirty'? Don't think so!