Posts by Incognito

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Poll/ So Who Do You Think Will Win The Presidency?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i have always felt trump will win again.

i just don’t see biden winning.. what’s your prediction?.

Incognito

The Democrats obviously don't respect the electoral process, the office of the President and the Constitution.

If they are willing to cheat and lie to be elected, do voters honestly believe they will act for the good of the country and citizens if 'elected'?

By their actions thus far, Trump as a Billionaire non-politician obviously scares and threatens them including the 'entitlements' and standards of living they have come to expect as politicians. You may recall, in 2016, they were already threatening impeachment before Trump even held office.

I've seen it suggested that similar to the office of President, all elected positions should be limited in the number of times any individual may be elected. Perhaps its time for this idea to be implemented.

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Poll/ So Who Do You Think Will Win The Presidency?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i have always felt trump will win again.

i just don’t see biden winning.. what’s your prediction?.

Incognito

As much as they are not big Trump supporters they can’t see themselves voting for Biden. - minimus

That would seem to imply they will not bother voting but will continue to grumble about everything done by whoever is elected.

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Unique Words and Expressions Of Jehovah’s Witnesses

by minimus in

jw
friends

system of things comes to mind.

what does that mean to anyone not a jw?.

how long have you been in the truth?

Incognito

Fleshly Brother, Sister etc vs Spiritual Brother & Sister

'The Friends'

'In the Truth'

Theocratic

Rendezvous

Gatherings

Judicial Committee (previously known as 'The Committee')

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Unique Words and Expressions Of Jehovah’s Witnesses

by minimus in

jw
friends

system of things comes to mind.

what does that mean to anyone not a jw?.

how long have you been in the truth?

Incognito

Some words and phrases are not necessarily unique to JWs but are given unconventional meanings by WT which will confuse nonJWs and may provide plausible deniability for JWs if questioned by nonJWs.

Disfellowshipped vs Disassociated by actions (example: joining military or accepting a blood transfusion)

True Christian vs Christian

Lie vs Theocratic warfare

The GB are imperfect men that are not spirit directed vs everything the GB state was communicated by God and must be believed and followed without question.

"It would be presumptuous to say we are the only spoke persons God's is using" vs God has only one chosen earthly organization and representatives.

Christian vs Jehovian

Humble vs bragging of every success of the WT organization and JWs as a group

We are all brothers with no one above any other vs GB, Bethelites, COs, Elders, Pioneers etc all have higher status above rank and file JWs

We give voluntarily and do not tithe or pass the collection plate vs ...

Other confusing terms include:

Slave

Pioneer

Publisher

Servant

Privilege

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CO'S "encouraging" letter to circuit

by nowwhat? in

the point of the letter was how many are feeling disappointed these days.. no circuit assembly, convention, how we can't fellowship at the k.h.

disappointed we might have had a love one die, etc etc.

he then goes on to write about how disappointed jehovah must have felt when his first human creation rebelled.

Incognito

Of course, they aren’t going to verbalize this to anybody outside their home.

LHG, JWs will outwardly state what is expected of them, even if that is totally contrary to what they are actually feeling or thinking.

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CO'S "encouraging" letter to circuit

by nowwhat? in

the point of the letter was how many are feeling disappointed these days.. no circuit assembly, convention, how we can't fellowship at the k.h.

disappointed we might have had a love one die, etc etc.

he then goes on to write about how disappointed jehovah must have felt when his first human creation rebelled.

Incognito

A watcher, you don’t have to do any of it , just so you know. - minimus

A Watcher, why are you still doing any of it?

You joined this board 8 years ago. Do you still continue to believe JWs have 'The Truth'?

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Did they use to applaud after reinstatement after being Disfellowshipped, but then it stopped?

by ThomasCovenant in

i don't remember disfellowshippings happening very often and announcements about being re instated but i think i remember that we used to clap hands if someone came back after being disfellowshipped.

but then i think clapping wasn't allowed.

am i correct in my recollections?.

Incognito

As I recall, applauding someone's reinstatement was deemed not appropriate since the person would not need to be reinstated if they had not first committed a sin which they were unrepentant for doing which resulted in them becoming disfellowshipped.

'Returning to Jehovah' is an automatic expectation and duty which WT considers the reinstated person should not be praised for doing.

The other reason I recall is so as to not elevate the importance of any individual. Similar to not celebrating someone's birthday, no human is to be elevated and praised above any other human. (Right!! Are not Pioneers, Elders, COs etc elevated above R&F JWs?)

While the Bible provides an example in the parable of the Prodigal son, the father forgave the wayward son and was excited with the sons return after a long absence, holding a feast in the son's honor, even as the father had not yet established the reason for the son's return.

WT disregards various bible examples of kindness, tolerance and loving behaviour when convenient to WT's agenda.

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In love with disfellowshipped JW

by Amberlou in

i started dating a coworker who is a divorced jw.

found out he was disfellowshipped, and he was trying to figure out how to make things work.

i am not a jw, and his family is not supportive of the relationship.

Incognito

Welcome to the forum Amberlou,

Unless your BF realizes for himself that the JW religion is not "the truth" and is a cult, there is always a high risk that he will return to it, even if he now denies that.

The lack of relationship with his family due to him not being a JW will be his family's decision. If his family is willing to break ties and turn their backs on him only because he decided he no longer wishes to remain a JW, then they really don't deserve him or you.

Will you ultimately accept and respect your BF if he changes who he is so as to satisfy the demands of his relatives? Even if he were to cave into their demands, do you believe they will then accept his relationship with you?

Giving into demands of relatives is a slippery slope. If he allows them to control him because he fears their rejection, reinstatement will not be enough but they will continue to place further demands on him to continue their approval.

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Do angels have genders?

by BourneIdentity in

many of them came down to have relations with women.

does that mean there are male angels?

if there are male and female, what makes them that with no physical body?

Incognito

This was a question and issues I raised on this forum some time ago.

I recall WT teaches angels have no gender.

As sexual arousal and stimulation in humans involves hormones and nerves, it then also seems spirit angels are equipped hormones and nerves equivalent to those in humans.

As genderless spirit creatures not equipped with sexual organs, even if they could somehow create a functioning penis to stimulate to orgasm, that does not require an ejaculate that is compatable with human DNA so as to produce hybrid offspring.

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JW Memorial Gallery

by neat blue dog in

jwdotorg released a picture gallery with dozens of images from around the world of jws celebrating ('commemorating') via zoom, organized by continent:.

https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/global/2020-memorial-commemoration-international-photo-gallery/.

the vast majority of photos show the people's faces, but this european 'brother' is a rare exception.

Incognito

Nice beard!

Although wearing his mandatory jacket and tie, he might not be wearing pants.