I come here for the updates as well. By the way, there are very good sites out there for those who still believe.
Hisclarkness
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Why Are You Here?
by Believer ini'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.
as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.
as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.
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hello i am search jewish jehovah witness origin turc and speak french help my please thanks
by temoin_de_jehovah inhello .
i am search jewish jehovah witness origin turc and speak french help my please thanks.
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Hisclarkness
Salut!
Dites ce que tu veux dire en français. Peut-être qu'il y a quelqu'un ici qui peux te donner un bon réponse!
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Jehovah Witness vs Jehovah's Witness
by Simon inbeing brought up as a jehovah's witness means you are so used to the term that you rarely stop to think about it.. one thing i've noticed is that people unfamiliar with the religion will say "jehovah witness" (no 's) instead which i always found a bit grating.. but watching the us election, something struck me.
people are often referred to as "trump supporters", not "trump's supporters" and so on.
thinking about other things, people would say they were "united fan's", not "united's fans" and so on.. it seems weird that a group would refer to themselves as though it was someone else talking about them (in the 3rd person, if i have that right).. what do you think?
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Hisclarkness
Always bugged me too. You are one of Jehovah's Witnesses or you are a witness of Jehovah.
It seems to be one of those weird grammatical exceptions; I dunno. It doesn't sound awkward to say you are a Trump supporter. What about saying you are a Trump witness for tomorrow's case? But saying you are a Jehovah Witness just sounds weird.
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What's the difference between 'works' and 'fruits'?
by TTWSYF inmy uber jw elder brother used to use jesus's quote "you know a tree by it's fruit" and then would speak about how jws are the only ones going door to door and restoring god's true name.. my niece was the first to point out that those were works and not fruits.
my brother retreated for a few days to contemplate the difference between works and fruits and when he returned to address the comment, he stated that works are fruits.
what's the take from the jw apologist?.
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Hisclarkness
The person is known by their fruit, meaning fruit of the spirit: love, joy, peace, long suffering, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control. -
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Is a piano inevitable?
by slimboyfat ini was at a concert last night and the presence and stature of the piano struck me.
and i thought: if the piano wasn't invented when it was, would it have been invented by someone else instead?
or if there was a world the same as our, except with a different history, would it have pianos now too or would it be modern world, similar in many respects, only without pianos?
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Hisclarkness
The piano would have been invented, regardless. To be brief, music theory is math. Musical tones and harmonies can be measured. There is a scientific reason why certain tones sound good together and others don't. Experimenting with different tones on plucked strings led to harped instruments to harpsichords to pianos. It would have happened sooner or later. I was a music major in college. -
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Why Christians cannot be possessed.
by James Mixon indemons cannot occupy the same place as the holy spirit, satan knows this, and that is why.
he tries so hard to get to people first and his demons or demonic influence control or affect.
that person.. i cannot believe this in still being taught today.
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Hisclarkness
Well, I guess since JWs don't believe they have the Holy Spirit in them (are anointed) then maybe they can be possessed by demons after all, lol. By their own definition, they are not Christian. Christ means "anointed one" so Christian means "anointed follower of Christ". -
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Elder Mentioning an "Apostate Problem"
by Simon Templar ini bumped into a sister that i have known for at least 40 years or so.
we were catching up.
she and her husband have been in the truth for decades.
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Hisclarkness
For those who have been out for a while, there is a growing number of friends within the organization who understand that to be Christian is to be anointed and that's why the number of partakers continues to rise. These are not mentally unstable ones. The GB knows this too. It's truly a sad state for people to be labeled as apostates by their own spiritual brothers and sisters for simply joining onto Christ. This house that is truly divided against itself cannot stand for much longer. -
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Questions for Serena Williams
by Esse quam videri inbeing as serena williams shows outstanding abilities and skills at that which she exerts herself in, such as tennis, it would seems reasonable that serena williams has the same high level of abilities in all of her worthwhile endeavors.
perhaps she has this level of abilities in her journey as one of jehovah's witnesses.
would it not be reasonable that those who need greater clarification and understanding of certain bible subjects, to make contact with serena and ask her such questions?.
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Hisclarkness
Sparky1-
There are tons of people who call to Jehovah but are not officially a part of the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses. These people might have studied but never progressed to baptism, might have family members who are witnesses, or might have grown up knowing the religion but never joined.
Just because her faith (meaning what she's grown up knowing) is associated with Jehovah's Witnesses doesn't mean she should be subject to scrutiny the same way a baptized witness would be. Besides, we shouldn't be judging people anyway. I love Serena Williams. She's my favorite athlete, Witness or not.
Anyway, I've said my peace.
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Questions for Serena Williams
by Esse quam videri inbeing as serena williams shows outstanding abilities and skills at that which she exerts herself in, such as tennis, it would seems reasonable that serena williams has the same high level of abilities in all of her worthwhile endeavors.
perhaps she has this level of abilities in her journey as one of jehovah's witnesses.
would it not be reasonable that those who need greater clarification and understanding of certain bible subjects, to make contact with serena and ask her such questions?.
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Hisclarkness
People should stop "calling out" the Williams sisters for things. It's getting old, sorry. They were never baptized as Jehovah's witnesses so any disfellowshipping offense would not apply to them. Nor would I expect them to be up to date with all the tweaks and changes in doctrine and policy.
I "claimed" to be a Witness my whole childhood though I was never baptized until much later. But that was all I knew. I sure it's the same with them.
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Local Needs part given after Ministerial Servant left the organization
by cappytan inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbb8rt2bem8.
some crazy cult language in this talk.. some highlights:.
18:15 - obey.
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Hisclarkness
Oh jeez... I SERIOUSLY thought this was my congregation until he said Houston, TX. I heard a similar talk was given at my hall about me and a couple of other brothers. "Stay away from certain ones trying to spread certain teachings". They didn't have anything on me to disfellowship me so they resorted to these types of local needs talks. At that point in my time of need and confusion I felt NO love from the "brotherhood". I felt hatred. So I never went back. Very few things get me riled up but this talk makes me boil!!