http://www.e-watchman.com/discussion/
that's the link.
you all better get right on over there now and register.
Like I've already said, he's a damn hypocrite.
LOL, I know. I am not finished with his arse yet. I am a master baiter and as soon as he trips up over his own theocratic penis, I will post the results on this board. What a megalomaniac this character is.
Corvin
http://www.e-watchman.com/discussion/
that's the link.
you all better get right on over there now and register.
Yes, I was found out and had my account suspended already! LOL.
To Corvinus...HI! In your reply above--you know, the one which contains "evasive" "vomit"--you have made my asserted point for me. Those matters HAVE, in fact, been addressed and answered--to my satisfaction, at least. It appears that your only interest at present is to cast dispersions, assasinate the character of the site-owner, and attempt to undermine credibility. Having already completely satisfied myself about these matters, this won't be a conversation I wish to pursue. I'm seeking to invest my spiritual energies into positive channels--not wrestle with revilers. Since you have launched a thinly-veiled attack against "E-whatchamacallit" himself, I am hopeful he may see fit to share a few words with you. In his own defense.
Corvis
So, as someone who left the "janitorial cult" 14 years ago, obviously you have no shared interests with Jehovah's Witnesses presently. Yet, all of the participants on this forum are either active Jehovah's Witnesses or otherwise supportive of the faith. It seems you are in the wrong forum!
We, of course, are aware that many XJW's are not content to simply leave the faith. They usually imagine themselves to be the enlightened escapees of the WT cult, whose duty now is to free other poor ignorant JW's from the oppressive yolk. The thing is, we aren't interested in leaving our faith. But, if any of us do decide to leave the "janitorial cult," we know where to find you.
E-WATCHMAN: I know that your hypocritical arse sneaks over here and reads these posts. How can you say you love and want to remain in an organization that if they knew who you were they would toss you out faster than you disabled my account. You speak out against the organization and you know, and I know, that they believe it's just the same as speaking out against God, Himself. This, therefore, makes you a big fat apostate too.
You are the sneakiest, most evil, apostate bastard that exists simply because you claim to still be on the JW's side and you mislead many without addressing the fact that the entire history of the organization is based on numerous lies. You defiitely have your own agenda and I am now siding with Schizm on this one.
I found a nice picture of you and your little theocratic sidekick, ISOMAN.
You are creepy.
Sincerely.
Corvin
how many of you have been in therapy after leaving the jws?
did it help ?
After 11 years disfellowshipped, I decided to go. During the time I was out, I had read many books and I was able to see something more beneficial to my mental health other than the WT publications. Therapy was shortlived because I discovered I already had many of the answers, but there was a problem I was not counting on. Clinical depression . . . had it since I was around 16. I started taking an anti-depressant and the results have been nothing short of miraculous. I am not the same person.
As for my kids, the have all gone. The eldest is extremely resilliant and her visits were shortlived as well. The middle child was evaluated a few months after coming to live with me and her counselor deemed her fit to carry on without anymore sessions. She is coming along fine.
The youngest, 12, was recently diagnosed with Post Tramatic Stress disorder and is currently undergoing treatment and taking meds for depression.
There is something to be said for the negative effects growing up in the org has on a person.
Corvin
http://www.e-watchman.com/discussion/
that's the link.
you all better get right on over there now and register.
Please be careful over there, Corvin, unless you're the owner of an extremely tall pair of boots.
LOL ty, Schiz. I will be careful. We all oughtta go gang-bang the site and burst some bubbles.
Corvin
28i tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them.
29but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.
these two verses make me quiver in my boots.
The following shows the Society's take as to what the "unforgivable" sin is.
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w92 9/15 pp. 9-10 Jehovah Forgives in a Large Way ***Some
Sins Unforgivable5
Some sins are unforgivable. Jesus Christ said: "Every sort of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven." (Matthew 12:31) So, then, blasphemy against God?s holy spirit, or active force, will not be forgiven. The apostle Paul alluded to such sin when he wrote: "It is impossible as regards those who have once for all been enlightened, . . . but who have fallen away, to revive them again to repentance, because they impale the Son of God afresh for themselves and expose him to public shame."?Hebrews 6:4-6.
NOTE BY CORVIN: Notice that Hebrews 6:4-6 is not quoted completely. They left out the most important part which applies only to themselves and not the great crowd. " 4 For it is impossible as regards those who have once for all been enlightened, and who have tasted the heavenly free gift, and who have become partakers of holy spirit, 5 and who have tasted the fine word of God and powers of the coming system of things, 6 but who have fallen away, to revive them again to repentance, because they impale the Son of God afresh for themselves and expose him to public shame." Sorry WT dudes, this Scripture is all for you.
6
Only God knows if a person has committed the unforgivable sin. However, Paul shed light on this matter when he wrote: "If we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left, but there is a certain fearful expectation of judgment." (Hebrews 10:26, 27) A willful person acts deliberately, or is "obstinately and often perversely self-willed." (Webster?s New Collegiate Dictionary) Anyone willfully and obstinately continuing to practice sin after he knows the truth is not forgiven. Hence, it is not so much the sin itself as it is the heart condition, the degree of willfulness involved, that affects whether the sin is forgivable or not. On the other hand, what is likely the case when an erring Christian is deeply disturbed about his wrongdoing? His great concern probably indicates that he has not, in fact, committed an unforgivable sin.NOTE: The kicker is that the WTBTS has been lying their butts off since the beginning, and even more so now, therefore this paragraph which implies that all who learn the Society's version of "the truth" and willfully sin, cannot be forgiven. Since the WTBTS HAS NOT been teaching the real truth, whatever that might be, we cannot very well be deliberately sinning against the Holy Spirit, but only against the organization itself, and there is a huge difference between the two. The above is such a broad encompassing statement since these buzz words, "willfully", "obstinately", "heart condition" can all be applied to those baptized JW's who merely question their teachings.
Their
Sins Were Unforgivable7
Certain Jewish religious leaders who opposed Jesus did commit willful, and thus unforgivable, sin. Though they saw God?s holy spirit at work through Jesus as he did good and performed miracles, those clerics ascribed his power to Beelzebub, or Satan the Devil. They sinned with their eyes wide open to the undeniable operation of God?s spirit. Thus, they committed unforgivable sin, for Jesus said: "Whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come."?Matthew 12:22-32.NOTE: The WTBTS is constantly trying to dazzle us with examples and evidence of how God's Holy Spirit "undeniably" operates within the organization. Therefore, they imply that speaking against or "opposing" the organization and its governing body is the same as committing the unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit.
8
The sin of Judas Iscariot also was unforgivable. His betrayal of Jesus was the willful, deliberate culmination of a course of hypocrisy and dishonesty. For instance, when Judas saw Mary anoint Jesus with costly oil, he asked: "Why was it this perfumed oil was not sold for three hundred denarii and given to the poor people?" The apostle John added: "[Judas] said this, though, not because he was concerned about the poor, but because he was a thief and had the money box and used to carry off the monies put in it." Soon thereafter, Judas betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. (John 12:1-6; Matthew 26:6-16) True, Judas felt remorse and committed suicide. (Matthew 27:1-5) But he was not forgiven, since his deliberate, persistently selfish course and his treacherous act reflected his sin against the holy spirit. How appropriate that Jesus should call Judas "the son of destruction"!?John 17:12; Mark 3:29; 14:21.***
w93 4/1 p. 14 Who Are Following the Light of the World? ***John 9:16 relates: "Some of the Pharisees began to say [about Jesus]: ?This is not a man from God, because he does not observe the Sabbath.?" How perverted their hearts were! Here a marvelous healing had taken place, but instead of expressing joy for the formerly blind man and appreciation for the healer, they condemned Jesus! By doing so, they doubtless sinned against the manifestation of God?s holy spirit, an unforgivable sin.?Matthew 12:31, 32.
NOTE: Again, here we see that the Society implies that we should be able to clearly see the manifestation of God's holy spirit in the organization. To question or criticize it is to sin against the Holy Spirit.
i'm getting married.. date not set, but it'll be sometime in the summer 2004, right here in toronto.. uh-huh...and it'll be a big party!.
who is the lucky person?
his name is drew, and he's an american.
Congrats, happiness and much success to you both!
Corvin
http://www.e-watchman.com/discussion/
that's the link.
you all better get right on over there now and register.
yeah Galaxy, that was me. God, I could not resist. Do they not have a damn clue or what? I am sure I will be deleted as a e-watchmen member very soon because I simply can't shup when I go there.
Corvin
http://www.e-watchman.com/discussion/
that's the link.
you all better get right on over there now and register.
Hey Schizm, I really do see what you are saying now. WOW! This e-guy is scarey.
Corvin
my parents kicked me out of their home 3 years ago when i started to question things.
i was engaged to a ministerial servant and a regular pioneer shortly before everything happened.
although i haven't been da'd or df'd i have been labeled an "apostate.
Great letter Chevy. We can only hope it will at least get your mother started thinking.
Corvin
this woman seems to think so.pretty scary who is controlling our laws..wouldn't you say?
june 14: avowed feminist and aclu activist ruth bader ginsberg was appointed to be an associate justice on the supreme court.
based on a report she co-authored and on her previous decisions, these are some of the positions she has expressed in the past.
I think a change or lowering of the age of consent law would only serve to protect individuals in very special circumstances, but it would open the door for predators to do what they do on a larger and more agressive scale, arguing that the youngster consented to the act and therefore allow them to get away with it more frequently.
Real life scenario: Josh is 23. Kim is 12. Josh is no mental giant but has a good heart and is by no means a pedophile. Kim, on the other hand, is over developed for her age [looks 18+ by anyone's standards], a bit more advanced in all ways for a 12 yo. Josh and Kim associate regularly because their families are very close and host many gatherings and recreational activities together. The group of friends are pretty much tight-nit, and to eachother extended family, as it were. In the natural course of things, Josh and Kim cultivate rapport and form a real relationship. They have known eachother for a long long time and have come to know, trust and care about eachother, thus forming a very real relationship with all the bells and whistles of emotional investment. In fact, the family situation they are in has even to a great extent, nurtured their relationship, and to some extent, approved of their forming bond.
They both decide [ mutually, consentually, premeditedly ] at some point to cross that line and begin taking their affection to the next level. Should Josh be made to spend years in jail for this? Should there be such consequences for this young man, labeled a child rapist, a sex offender, a pedophile?
Again, the challenge with lowering the age of consent law is that many predators would use this to their advantage. Yet, wouldn't the child who is violated have recourse under the same laws that prosecute rapists who victimize adults?
I am the father of 4 girls, ages 12 to 18. I am very protective of them and would question the motives of any older male who showed a romantic interest in my 12 year old. Ultimately and unarguably, it is my responsibility to protect them from situations that could lead to devastation and heartbreak. It is for me to be cautious with regard to any adult they come into contact with.
This is a sticky sticky touchy touchy topic.
Corvin
