Hester Df'd? I hadn't heard that. So Santa Monica had two CO's DF'd within 10 yrs? Brown and Hester?
Hello whoknows.
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Posts by Dunk
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93To SO CAL: What CO's and DO's do we all know?
by IreallydidwalkoutofaKH inokay, in order it goes like this for me............brother peace 1980-83, brother rose 1984-86, brother yasko 1986-88, brother sekella 1988-91, brother billy ford 1992-95, brother davis 1996-99, brother irskin 2000-03 and then it gets kinda blurry....brother burge and another, brother hairston.
okay, that just about does it.
i have this topic becauce i tried reading the favorite co and do thread, but did not recognize any names......
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To SO CAL: What CO's and DO's do we all know?
by IreallydidwalkoutofaKH inokay, in order it goes like this for me............brother peace 1980-83, brother rose 1984-86, brother yasko 1986-88, brother sekella 1988-91, brother billy ford 1992-95, brother davis 1996-99, brother irskin 2000-03 and then it gets kinda blurry....brother burge and another, brother hairston.
okay, that just about does it.
i have this topic becauce i tried reading the favorite co and do thread, but did not recognize any names......
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Dunk
Magwitch,
It just goes to show that everyone has a good side. Emshoff was one of the most unkind JW reps I ever encountered. I saw him humiliate brothers and sisters all the time. He was so insulting, impatient, really un-Christlike.
It's still a shame that he is having a rough time now.
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To SO CAL: What CO's and DO's do we all know?
by IreallydidwalkoutofaKH inokay, in order it goes like this for me............brother peace 1980-83, brother rose 1984-86, brother yasko 1986-88, brother sekella 1988-91, brother billy ford 1992-95, brother davis 1996-99, brother irskin 2000-03 and then it gets kinda blurry....brother burge and another, brother hairston.
okay, that just about does it.
i have this topic becauce i tried reading the favorite co and do thread, but did not recognize any names......
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Dunk
Everyone from So. Cal has got to remember Earl McGee! He pushed pioneering for everyone like no other!
Growing up in LA I remember Br. Peace and Br. Good early on.
Worst CO's ever: Manning, Ford,
Best CO: Ray Harriman. He's got to be an ex-jw by now. He way too bright.
Hester was the last CO I had.
JC Howard was my DO for a time in Palm Springs, CA. I thought he was pretty bad until his replacement arrived - Emshoff. What a nut.
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What is real?
by John Doe inthe only thing that's real is this, and i focus on it.
tearing holes with needles, letting down.
away, sweet friend.
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Dunk
Are you real? To whom would you like me to adress my response?
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Why to people give thanks (prayer) to god for their food?
by sinis ini find it completely ironic that people thank god for food and clothing, when if you look at the ot in genesis you see how yahweh curses the ground and tells man that he will work his ass off for food, shelter, daily life.
why are people giving thanks to a god who knowingly made life hell to begin with?
couldn't it be said that man works for his own food and that he should be thanking himself?
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Dunk
I don't think there is a single case of anyone praying before they eat in the Bible. Even in the Lord's Supper, the prayers were said during the meal, not before it.
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As A Former JW, Do You Feel You Should "Apologize" For Past Actions?
by minimus indo you believe that you should now apologize for whatever actions you made when you were a witness?.
do you think that if you were an elder that you should contact those that might've felt oppressed by you and your "theocratic" actions?.
if you were a zealous preacher, do you now feel you should go back to your former bible students and tell them the error of your ways?.
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Dunk
Yes. Although it's impossible to apologize for every action I took as an Elder, I felt very deeply that I had to reach out to some who's lives were affected by my decisions. It's true that I was just doing as instructed, and maybe I was even on the "liberal" side, but my actions hurt other people. Getting over myself and just apologizing for my ignorance was my intention.
I'm amazed how kindly I was received even by those that I had a hand in disfellowshipping. Even so, this is the one area where I feel really ashamed of myself. After all, most of us Elder's at least had doubts, we (I) could have shown courage earlier.
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How the new "generation" study went down in the meeting today
by slimboyfat ini made a big effort to get to the watchtower study today.
i have not been to the meetings much for months, but i figured this was a pretty historic "study" and i wanted to see reactions and how it would go down locally.
well a few things struck me as a bit odd in the study itself, and in the audience response as well.
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Dunk
Could someone post a link to the article? I'm so out of the loop on this.
Thanks
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Effects of the changes if the book study is amalgamated with the TMS
by truthseeker inwe're pretty sure what will happen next week but not why.. this thread is just for a list of changes that will affect those who still go.. .
1) no more private book study arrangements.
the book study host will ask themselves "why?".
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Dunk
Can someone post a copy of the letter to the BOE?
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Follow the Christ DC 2007 Audio
by FadingAway ini have made some of the talks available from the follow the christ dc.
i had some problems on day 1 with reception, so i was only able to get one talk and day 3 we were late getting there.
also, i didn't include the drama as there is another thread on that hopefully some will be able to provide transcripts like live life did with the education talk to promote discussion of the material (again, thanks live life).
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Fading away,
I just listened to "The Superiority of being Taught by Jeh." I cannot believe that some say the Org has softened its stand on college. It's the same old crap. Hearing the applause just kills me! Why can't they see through this? UHGGGG!
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Why does the great crowd go to memorial?
by *jeremiah* in"do this in remembrance of me"...... ...those words jesus utters,..according to the wt,...is specifically for "the annointed",...right?.
if jesus at the last supper is speaking directly to "the annointed class",...that they should parttake and "do this in remembrance",...then why do the r & f even go to the memorial?.
looking at it through jw eyes,...jesus didn't invite members of "great crowd" to the last supper,...right?
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Dunk
Mike,
One of the great lies that JW's teach is that their hope to live on a "Paradise Earth" is unique. Actually this belief is in harmony with mainline evangelicalism. Heaven is where we reside prior to receiving glorified bodies. The "New Earth" is our ultimate destination where we will eternally live with Christ in flesh - but with incoruptible perfected bodies.
There are several scriptures that indicate that the "great crowd" are in heaven. Try Rev 19:6, and then also verse 1. The same Greek word is used as is in Rev. 7. Remember when speaking to JW's that they already believe in "going to heaven." They just don't believe that everyone does.
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