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  Silentlambs on radio program

  by jschwehm in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  saturday, june 30, 2001. silent lambs with a former jehovah's witness and an active witness concerned.

  about child and sexual abuse within the watchtower society.

  computer users all over the country can listen to "family shield!".

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  apostate

  It starts in less than an hour.

  http://www.kfuo.org/kfuolive.ram
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  Blood Card

  by apostate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember every time i had to renew my blood card my book study conductor always told the group that in case of a medical emergency if the doctor asks why you dont want to accept blood transfusion we should never say that because the watchtower says so.

  he told us that we should say that we dont want blood transfusion because it is our religious conviction.. i was a little bit upset about this because i know i would never come to that conclusion on my own.

  i accepted this do to the fact that the watchtower pressured me to do so.

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  I remember every time I had to renew my blood card my book study conductor always told the group that in case of a medical emergency if the doctor asks why you don’t want to accept blood transfusion we should never say that because the Watchtower says so. He told us that we should say that we don’t want blood transfusion because it is our religious conviction.

  I was a little bit upset about this because I know I would never come to that conclusion on my own. I accepted this do to the fact that the Watchtower pressured me to do so. (Imagine if I would have expressed my concern to anyone. I would have been marked right away and get the silent treatment from my loving brotherhood. It really makes me feel that the Watchtower is responsible for pressuring its members to risk or give up their lives.

  Anybody had this experience?

  And I also find it quite dishonest on their part that when they write an article on how to identify an apostate they always mention that apostates attacking the organization for its stand on the Blood Transfusion issue. It is definitely not coming from the Bible.
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  Please Respond To Survey! 25 more needed please.

  by Big Jim in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems like to me the majority of people who are in the truth, are were in the truth was a result of either a family member are a friend witnessing to them and not many seem to have been found in the door to door work.. from my years of associating with the borg i cannot recall many coming in the truth from the door to door work.. how were you sucked in?

  for me it was my aunt who has now even though i am not disfellowshipped decided to write me out of her will to the tune of about $150,000.00 (maybe i should hang around a couple more years)dont think i will.. please respond .

  thanks.

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  apostate

  I was sucked in when I was twenty, thanks to the Live Forever book.
  Yeah, I was one of those few naive idiots.
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  POLL - Elders vs Molesters

  by Amazing in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i wish to conduct a legitimate poll, or at least as legitimate as it can get on this forum.

  unless you are or were a jw, please do not respond or make comments.

  please simply give an answer, without extended comments.

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  apostate

  None.
  I was a JW for 10 years only and I never had privileges.
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  sister says prayer with elders !!!!!

  by jurs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this friday the elders are coming over to discuss my da letter.

  i keep studying and thinking of what i want to say.

  i'm sure they'll open with a prayer.

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  Print this out and give it to them. It is devastating to every honest JW.

  Awake, Oct. 8, 1968 p. 23
  "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end" to the world, even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? Missing from such people were God's truths and the evidence that He was using and guiding them.''

  WT 1984 3/1 Pages: 18-19
  He has told us that the “generation” of 1914—the year that the sign began to be fulfilled—”will by no means pass away until all these things occur.” (Matthew 24:34) Some of that “generation” could survive until the end of the century. But there are many indications that “the end” is much closer than that!

  WT 1968 8/15 p.499
  "Are we to assume from this study that the battle of Armageddon will be all over by the autumn of 1975, and the long-looked-for thousand-year reign of Christ will begin by then? Possibly. . . . It may involve only a difference of weeks or months, not years."
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  Night Shift.

  by apostate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i read a couple of books on cults.

  they all claim that cults use sleep deprivation to burn their members out, to make them more vulnerable to mind control.. lots of jehovahs witnesses are janitors, working nights and go out in service during the days.

  it seems to be the case here in canada and if i recall it correctly from your posts it is so in the usa too.. i was just wondering if jws were encouraged by the watchtower to bee janitors.

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  I read a couple of books on cults. They all claim that cults use sleep deprivation to burn their members out, to make them more vulnerable to mind control.

  Lot’s of Jehovah’s Witnesses are janitors, working nights and go out in service during the days. It seems to be the case here in Canada and if I recall it correctly from your posts it is so in the USA too.

  I was just wondering if JWs were encouraged by the Watchtower to bee janitors. (I went to the meetings during the nineties, I don’t know much about the old things.) It may be their sneaky way to submit JWs to sleep deprivation.
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  The Day "Rebellion" Happened in Bethel

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  years ago, during the early 70's, conditions and morale.

  at bethel got pretty bad - a sex ranting knorr,.

  demanding overseers, stupid policies, and brothers.

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  apostate

  Randy

  I love your posts, but I hate to highlight, copy and paste you URL's into the address box of my web browser.

  Did you know if you start a new line with space followed by the URL starting with http:// like this:

  http://www.freeminds.org

  makes them clickable.
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  BETHELITES SERVED AT BROTHEL

  by bj in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  like metatron, i would like to know the facts that exist to prove that in the time of rutherford, bethelites and others got regularily serviced at a local brothel (as stated by barbara gazzutis in her book).

  if similar stories exist today, i would be glad to know about them as the wts takes delight in expossing jim swaggart and others!

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  apostate

  You can read about her at freeminds.org http://www.freeminds.org/women/barbara.htm
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  New Poster....Long time lurker

  by ticatoo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello all.....after months of lurking....both here and on h2o...i have decided to take the plunge and become active here.

  i am a former jw.....3rd generation.

  i walked away and haven't looked back.

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  apostate

  Thanks for answering. I will pick up a Mic.
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  New Poster....Long time lurker

  by ticatoo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello all.....after months of lurking....both here and on h2o...i have decided to take the plunge and become active here.

  i am a former jw.....3rd generation.

  i walked away and haven't looked back.

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  apostate

  Hey Ticatoo

  I enjoyed listening to the upbuiding conversation in your Awoke chatroom on PalTalk. Unfortunately you kicked me out twice.

  Why? I never did anything wrong! I was just listening to the conversation.

  I never been kicked out from the Kingdom Hall for not participating in their programs. Please don't kick people out just because they don't have a microfon.