I wonder if there'll be a letter from the GB to the congregations about that.
Hmmm....probably not.
project gutenberg makes available online and for free some major books whose copyrights have expired.
for some reason rutherford's "harp of god" (1921) was considered worthwhile enough to be added to the collection.
oh well, here is the link: .
I wonder if there'll be a letter from the GB to the congregations about that.
Hmmm....probably not.
just curious.. todays "times" says that americans do most things one hour before the brits do.. americans, it says, start work at 8am, brits rarely before 9 am.
american lunch is at 12 noon, the uk is 1pm.
american dinner is at 6pm, uk eats around 7.. but how many hours do you need to actually work?.
I work from 8:30 until 4:30, 1/2 hour for lunch. My commute is 1/2 hour to 1 hour depending on traffic. Then I work at my home business for however long it takes in the evening.
I don't have holiday time with this job, because it's a temp one.
i'm not cheap, i'm not trying to scam ray's estate out of $15, i just want to download the book to my palm so i can read it when i get a chance.
i'd grab it from the library, but it's not the sort of coffee-table book i need lying around the house at this point in my life!.
thanks for any links!
Welcome to the Board AA.
ROFLMAOPMP Joy! You have guts to be reading it AT the meeting. Oh man, I LOVE IT!
Thanks for the great start to my day! *grin*
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looking for opinions
being banned is important to discussion groups because.....?
I'm fine with the concept of whoever has all the headaches of running the place making the rules. His house, I'm a guest. If I break rules/tick him off, he can escort me to the door.
Um, we aren't talking about me are we?
Edited to add: I thought it went by the rules listed when you post. ???
To be honest, I don't hand out my info online to anyone. Here or any other forum (and I belong to many). It's a safety and security thing (I have been stalked before in 'real life', and I'd rather not repeat that experience, even online). I'm sure you can understand being cautious and careful, after all, I am a female and therefore more vulnerable.
While I'm not surprised you won't publish your info, I do find it interesting that you didn't answer the one question I was particularly hoping you would...what you thought your elders would do if they knew you came here and posted. But then we probably both know the answer to that, us both being the honest type, right? So it's probably not even worth your posting back. I mean I've been newly branded an apostate and by even talking to me this much you've endangered your relationship with Jehovah right? Presumably that's of utmost importance to you.
Nice chatting with you. I'm sure we'll see you around the forums.
Interesting. So post your real name, congregation, and a way to contact you on the forum. Then sit back and wait for the phone to ring.
I predict you won't be waiting long.
There was an elder's wife who, upon seeing me at a meeting after my Mom passed away asked me if I was still in the hall because she hadn't seen me. I explained I'd been spending weekends going back and forth to Mom's (5 hours drive and I worked full time during the week) and that she had died. She looked at me, said "I heard about that" and turned around and walked away.
I had a 'best friend' who did everything with me...she has strong JW ties (several generations, bethelites, COs, DOs etc). She and her husband not only stole upwards of $5,000 from me, they also perpetrated lies about my character to elders (unfounded...I never was called before a JC or elder body for ANY reason and their lies were found to be simply that...lies). Nothing was ever done to them judicially, even though I had proof and more than one elder witnessed an exchange between us where they admitted to it.
My study conductor, a pioneer and elder's wife spent no social time with me after I was baptized (oh, except for the one hour of my study she was allowed to count...funny how my studies could be 3-4 hours prior to baptism).
3 months after my Mom died and 4 months before my Dad died I was limited to getting to meetings as I was working full time and running both Dad's care and household as well as my own. I was in touch with elders weekly asking for my magazines to be picked up for me so I could collect them when I could. I asked for telephone hookup. Those things never occurred. Instead I was 'marked' for lack of meeting attendance.
At a time when a 'church' and those who claim to love Jesus and God should be rallying to support a congregation member in good standing, my congregation let me down. My sister in another congregation saw it; asked elders in her hall to try to help me with magazines and meetings. I went when I could. The congregation rejected me LONG before I decided that I'd had enough of being treated like crap. I've been through enough to certainly be justified in feeling bitter.
HOWEVER. I'm not in the least bit bitter. I gave over 10 years of my life to this organization and I did that of my own free will. I'm thankful for the experience it gave me...I now know with crystal clarity what I don't, and what I won't accept in my life. In addition to not being bitter, I feel sorry for those still deluded by the Satanic and Pharasaic influence in the congregations. The Governing Body and many of the Elder bodies (if not certain members of the 'rank and file') are certainly bloodguilty and also guilty of heinous activities in the name of Jehovah. I pity those who are still deluded, blinded and 'like sheep without a shepherd.' Maybe one day they can find their way to the 'real life' and 'freedom.'
Now, I've answered your question, please do me the courtesy of answering mine. I think I've asked you before but you never did answer...
How do you justify to yourself coming to a board that the Governing Body has monitored as 'apostate,' that the majority of the members would be considered 'apostate' by the rules set down by the WTS? What do you think would happen if you went to tell the elders in your hall about your activities here? Do you think that you're being honest to the congregation, having spent time with the 'dirty things of the world' and bringing that dirt into the congregation via your association? I think if you want to be honest, as all JWs are supposed to be, that you would go and let them know just who you are, what your nickname is, why you've been coming here. I'm sure confession would make you feel better...
this is a must to read to the end p l e a s e!
(guys: pass it on to your lady).
an eye opener on ovarian cancer
Regardless of the 'urban myth' it is one of the highest rated killers of women...and completely 'fixable' if caught early with an ultrasound. Sadly, most women don't present symptoms till 3rd or 4th stage...way too late.
It's not part of routine testing (like mammograms) but I've heard they're starting to advocate for it.
Because of how my parents died and my own exposure to 2nd hand smoke, I get a yearly chest xray...not the norm but even though I'm not a smoker, my doc agrees to it. (Lung cancer is another one that doesn't present till 3rd or 4th stage and by then it's just a matter of time.)
Ask your doctor to include a pelvic ultrasound as part of your regular yearly exams (like along with the pap smear etc). Alternatively, you can get it done privately. Catching it in 1st or 2nd stage means more options for treatment.
the church behind our house of course.
at 3:30am i wake suddenly to a strange humming sound that gets louder and louder until its a low roar.
i got up and looked out the window to see a street cleaner cleaning the parking lot at the church.
The KH I used to go to has a parking lot that borders on a condo complex. Several times a year an announcement was given from the platform stating that there had been complaints about the level of noise coming from us as we left the hall and got to our vehicles (and this was at 9:30 -10:00 pm).
It would work for awhile...and then we'd need reminding. (I can only imagine what a pain it would be for the neighbours, as there are 4 congs. meeting at that hall...so basically Friday night and Saturday night are the only days there isn't a full parking lot.)
I suggest that you find out the bylaws in your area (if there is a noise restriction) and then ask them nicely if they can make it at a decent hour. *hugs* Broken sleep is awful. I hope you get it resolved quick!
today i drove my daughter nancy to shool after the incident last night to ensure that she was ok. she never showed up to her first class, but took a bunch of pills she pilfered from her mother's bathroom a couple of weeks ago.
she was discovered, and i was called.
i took her to the hospital right away.
My thoughts and positive energies are with you and your family. I hope you can get Nancy the help she needs.
*hugs*