Read more about the new GB members in the thread: The 12-Member Governing Body - Pics, info and analysis on the new additions.
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New member of the Governing Body from Australia
by jwfacts injeff jackson has just been appointed to the gb.
he is a family friend from tasmania, a little island at the bottom of australia.
he is about 50 and claimed to be annointed when i think he was in his late 30's, as a great shock to everyone.
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Watchtower condemns other church for shunning ex-members
by Elsewhere in.
a few weeks ago someone posted a watchtower or awake!
article about some people who where shunned by their church after they started studying with jws.. does anyone know the link to that post?.
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The 12-Member Governing Body - Pics, info and analysis on the new additions
by Neo inguy pierce samuel herd gerrit losch david splane.
"no more additions!".
"no, no more additions!
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Neo
Barber, 100:
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The 12-Member Governing Body - Pics, info and analysis on the new additions
by Neo inguy pierce samuel herd gerrit losch david splane.
"no more additions!".
"no, no more additions!
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"The 12 apostles acted as an authoritative central governing body."
The Watchtower 5/15/97 p.15On Wednesday, August 25th, it was announced at the breakfast table at Bethel that two new members were being added to the Governing Body. They are Anthony Morris and Geoffrey Jackson.
"Tony" and "Jeff" were already considered "Governing Body material" because they were GB assistants in Bethel and "partake" of the "Memorial".
Morris is from Italian descent and, unlike most of the predominantly childless GB, has raised two sons "in the Troof". He is in his fifities. Jackson is the first Australian member of the Governing Body. He is from the island of Tasmania and is also in his fifties.
With these two new additions, the GB now adds up to twelve members. Here are the others:
The old guard:
Carey Barber Albert Schroeder John Barr Daniel Sydlik Theodore Jaracz (the Boss!)The new kids on the block (but as diehard as the old ones):
Guy Pierce Samuel Herd Gerrit Lösch David Splane
Steve LettAlthough it was possibly unintentional (the member total has oscillated since the seventies), they now make up a "perfect ideal number" since they see themselves as the modern counterpart of the twelve apostles.
Far from being an impressive fact, as it will no doubt sound to faithful Witnesses, the existence of the current 12-member GB is a real embarrassment to the JWs. It's one of the greatest confirmations that it is really a make-believe religion. Why? Because one of the cornerstones of the JW doctrine is that the 144,000 number was completed in the twentieth century. The Watchtower says very clearly that the heavenly calling ended in the mid-thirties. No one less than their chief theologian, the deceased Fred Franz, said it in no uncertain terms:
*** w99 2/1 19 Our Treasure in Earthen Vessels ***
"No More Additions!"
At a Gilead graduation in 1970, Frederick Franz, then vice-president of the Watch Tower Society, told the students of the possibility that they, who were all of the other sheep with earthly hopes, might baptize someone who might claim to be of the anointed remnant. Could this happen? Well, he explained that John the Baptist was of the other sheep, and he baptized Jesus and some of the apostles. Then he went on to ask whether there still was a call for gathering in more of the remnant. "No, no more additions!" he said. "That call ended way back there in 1931-35! There are no more additions. Who, then, are the few newly associated ones who are partaking of the Memorial emblems? If they are of the remnant, they are replacements! They are, not additions to the ranks of the anointed, but replacements for those who may have fallen away."It has been 70 years since 1935!! Going by Franz's teaching, we can say that most members of the "anointed class" actually end up "falling away" and being "replaced", since the call ended in 1935 and there are still thousands partaking (when at least 75% should have had already died, taking as basis a normal mortality rate).
Now let's do a little research on the birthyear of the Governing Body's members:
Carey Barber ………………1905
Albert Schroeder…………..1911
John Barr ………………… 1913
Daniel Sydlik……………… 1919
Theodore Jaracz……………1924
Guy Pierce …………………1934
Samuel Herd ……………….1935
Gerritt Losch ……………….1941
David Splane ……………... 1944
Steve Lett …………………. 1949
Anthony Morris..................Late 40's/Early 50's (?)
Geoffrey Jackson ..............Late 40's/Early 50's (?)The Watchtower says that babies cannot be anointed. And then we come to the death-blowing conclusion: according to JW doctrine, most of the GB were anointed after Heaven's Door was closed! With the two GB additions, the post 1935 anointed are the majority!
How can that be? The Watchtower has never made a comment about that kind of fact! They have painted themselves into a corner. Why does the "faithful slave" need so many "replacements"?
Will they bother to comment? No. It's just a fake doctrine. Witnesses don't take the time to check reality, and the GB knows it very well. Much like the discarded "generation of 1914", the 1935 doctrine has an expiration date. But you can be sure that Morris and Jackson, like the rest of the Governing Body, won't take their time to explain this doctrinal mess.
They'll make it up as they go along.
Neo
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Hot News-New GB members
by truthsetsonefree inhey ya'll, t was announced this morning at the breakfast table that there are two new members of the governing body.
they were formerly "helpers" or "given ones.
" anthony morris raised a family and then went into the traveling work.
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Hot News-New GB members
by truthsetsonefree inhey ya'll, t was announced this morning at the breakfast table that there are two new members of the governing body.
they were formerly "helpers" or "given ones.
" anthony morris raised a family and then went into the traveling work.
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The JW doctrine of the anointed doesn't hold water. They say the Heaven's Door was closed in the mid-thirties. But most of today's GB was born after 1935!!
These two new GB additions are a complete embarrassment to the Watchtower. They contradict what they themselves said:
w99 2/1 p. 19 Our Treasure in Earthen Vessels ******
"No
More Additions!"At a Gilead graduation in 1970, Frederick Franz, then vice-president of the Watch Tower Society, told the students of the possibility that they, who were all of the other sheep with earthly hopes, might baptize someone who might claim to be of the anointed remnant. Could this happen? Well, he explained that John the Baptist was of the other sheep, and he baptized Jesus and some of the apostles. Then he went on to ask whether there still was a call for gathering in more of the remnant. "No, no more additions!" he said. "That call ended way back there in 1931-35! There are no more additions. Who, then, are the few newly associated ones who are partaking of the Memorial emblems? If they are of the remnant, they are replacements! They are, not additions to the ranks of the anointed, but replacements for those who may have fallen away."
We can only conclude that many of the "anointed" keep 'falling away'.
Neo
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Monthy Awake Update
by ezekiel3 inannounced at service meetings this week: .
there has been clarification about how the awake!
monthly circulation will be handled.
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Here's a thread with some analysis about the move to a monthly magazine:
WTS Official Spin on monthly Awake: 'More emphasis on the Bible!'
Thanks, Zek!
Neo
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WTS Backslides Production Again - Paperback Bibles
by ezekiel3 in.
announced at service meetings this week:.
the wts will be phasing out hard-bound bibles for the public begining later this year.. jws will still be able to order hard-backs for themselves, but hard-bound bibles will not be made available to the public after current stocks are depleted.. soft cover bibles will have a paper cover similar to other publications produced by the wts.. pocket-size bibles with fake leather covers are to be discontinued entirely and will only be available in paperback.. we are a long way from pig-skin folks.. .
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Nathan Knorr must be rolling in his grave right about now.
Neo
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Awake - Family Review Section
by TheListener ini don't recall seeing this discussed yet but it bothers me that the may ?
?, 2005 awakes last page has a review section for families.. i know that technicall it is a good thing, teaching our children and encouraging them to be dubs and all.
but, as a fader, it's features like this and articles on families/child rearing that make a quiet fade difficult.. i like it better when they ignore kids or tell them what they aren't allowed to do.
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See the article The Dumbed Down Awake Sinks Lower (May 8).
Neo
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My Mom is so upset she is skipping meetings!
by Quotes ini just got off the phone with my mom.
my mom has been a jw since converting in her teens or early 20s; she is now at the age of "senior discount".
a lifetime in the religion, by choice.
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Quotes,
I'm extremely delighted to read these news about your Mom. Sounds she's can think for herself a little. Thanks for sharing.
While in Florida in January, my folks saw a new assembly hall with a sign "Christian Learning Center". They have since learned (I think she said a by a letter or KM announement) that all the assembly halls will be thus labelled, henceforth.
Can anyone confirm this? It's the first time I hear about it.
This gave me the opportunity to remind her of the many other corporations and divisions of Watchtower Conglomerate (which is a direct violation of Galations 5:19-21, in my opinion).
Sorry, Quotes, I don't get the link between the WT divisions and Galatians 5. Does it have anything to do with "divisions"?
Quotes, of the "I planted, Apollos watered, but WT made it grow... through their own stupid behavior" class
I love it.
Neo