@Oubliette - .....Oooh, oooh, it's a cult!
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Independent article: Spiritual abuse
by Tornintwo ini've been reading about different types of emotional abuse to help me define and cope with my difficult marriage, came across this article : 7 ways a person can be abused, by a psychologist.
http://pro.psychcentral.com/exhausted-woman/2015/08/7-ways-a-person-can-be-abused/.
includes forms of 'spiritual abuse' - these sound familiar?.
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Exposing one's identity. When?
by kairos ini've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.
( "reaching out", so to speak ).
i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.
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dubstepped
So Kairos, is that the end? I guess they wait until after 7 days passes and then announce? I'm hoping our DA is announced this Wednesday but who knows. They haven't been in a hurry to date.
Take care. Sorry it has to come down to such things for both of us, in a way, but looking forward to the freedom.
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Intro and Thoughts
by ThinkerBelle ini've been lurking on the board for almost a year now and i think i'm ready to come out of hiding (although, i'm so nervous as i type this).
i'm not ready to share everything about my story, but the basics are that i'm a born-in, elder's kid, baptized as a teenager because i was tired of hearing people ask me "all your friends are baptized, when are you going to get baptized?
", married an unbeliever (was df, but came back shortly after) and we have two kids.
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dubstepped
Welcome! Wow, I love your username. It is so tough to hang around once your eyes are opened. Nice to have you here. -
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The social institution of the Kingdom Hall.
by The Rebel init is a warm sunny day, blue skies and i am excited by the prospect this sunday holds.
will i dismantle a motorbike?
paint a picture?
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dubstepped
My wife and I are going to meet some new friends at their house. We are walking from there to a new neighborhood pizza place that's getting great reviews. Who knows what the day will hold. That's part of the fun, getting to organically shape your day rather than having them all dictated to you. -
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My Book, 'Gifts in Men', by Patricia F.Sadio
by GiftsinMen inanother member on here announced the publication of my new book "gifts in men, a heavier responsibility" a couple of months ago and some of you asked who i was as to my authenticity and motives.
i have had an amazing reaction to my book even from jws who know me and my story but were still shocked at the details.
i was not raised a jw, not disfellowshipped nor disassociated and loved being a regular pioneer, serving in uk and ireland.
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dubstepped
I think that anytime a person comes to a forum where people like you and I are vulnerable enough to tell our stories without charge, those who come merely for self-promotion and gain will be look upon unfavorably. I'm a member of many forums. On most those people are just banned for spamming. Thus those people often are received with cynicism. -
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A Judicial experience.
by John Aquila inwhen i was an elder in the 80s, a 16 year old baptized jw girl had confessed that at school during lunch a boy kissed her and touched her privates over her dress.
the circuit overseer was in town and we told him of the situation and he called the society and then told us that mother said we were not allowed to conduct the funeral in the kingdom hall or anywhere else with the threat of removing us and being dealt with judicially if we disobeyed.
the mother who is about 79 years old comes once a year to talk to my mom about the situation.
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dubstepped
John Aquila - My mom told me today that a couple of sisters she hangs out with told her the other day that Jehovah’s spirit has left me and I’m as good as dead.
WTF is wrong with those people? Seriously, how can they tell a mom something like that? Somehow the Borg manages to not only remove the mind of the people, but their hearts too. That turned my stomach. So did the story you told. Come to think of it, there isn't much about them that doesn't, but I'm still somehow surprised at the cruelty of the people that follow the religion.
And I know it is tough, but you're much more as a human being than a person that spent so much time as JW. Sure, you never got to help out children like you mentioned, but you're helping people here through a problem that affects people that don't often have an advocate. Your posts have helped me. I'm sure that even as JW you helped others just because you're a sensitive and thoughtful guy to be more human and less artificial like the majority of the Borg. Who you are underneath the ego, underneath the JW indoctrination over those years, would have shined through and impacted others. It seems from your stories that you've come in contact with a lot of people. I'm sure you made an impact, even if it wasn't in one specific way that you would have felt was a better use of your time. We can all question what we've done with our years. Everyone does at the end, even the guy helping kids with deformed faces. He probably has something out there that he never got to try.
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help me understand: My wife seems to be utterly detested by skelletons and skulls. Why?
by goingthruthemotions inso, here i am again....asking more questions to help me understand my wife.
she was brought up in the cult in the 70's and 80's.
so i can only imagine what kind of indoctrination she deals with.
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dubstepped
Skeletons and skulls primarily come out on..........Halloween, the JW's favorite holiday (j/k). She probably equates them with what she sees as a demonic holiday. Not to mention death, which isn't exactly something pleasant.
There's a huge zombie walk going on here this weekend and we were invited to go and we just can't do it. I know that some JW's like zombies but our families in particular were uber conservative. My wife's family never even had a tv. So, we just aren't accustomed to that imagery. It makes us feel weird, though we know that it is definitely popular today. To each his/her own as long as they aren't forcing their view on others or hurting somebody.
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They truly love in their own world. Somehow he managed to make cartoon characters aimed at indoctrinating children even more creepy. -
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Young ex-JW Jason Droboth explains the benefits of University
by wheelwithinwheel inchristian and katja interview a young ex-jw.
excellent!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_ursarjohg.
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dubstepped
So awesome. Glad for that young man that he found an authentic path in life. It sounds like it really agrees with his interests and disposition. I gave up college myself and I had lots of scholarship opportunities. Had to get out there and knock on doors all week where nobody was home and put in lots of hours with a bunch of women that wanted nothing to do with the only young brother. In our congregation, brothers and sisters didn't really work together in service. That only lead to fornication, you know. Even if they're in their 70's. Anyway, I literally worked alone many days for hours on end. Man I wish I never settled for what other people wanted for me instead of what I wanted. So congrats Jason! Stay the course and enjoy your life! -
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Thought I was stronger!
by Peony injust come home from a weight loss class early.
it's 6 months since i da'd and two and a half years since i've been to a meeting.
there was a witness there (unless she has left, i wouldn't know) we made eye contact!
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dubstepped
I like what FayeDunaway says above. One thing I've noticed is the immense shame that people feel when leaving the Borg, whether they left voluntarily or involuntarily. My brother, who I reconnected with after many years of being DF'ed, seemed to carry that shame to some degree for all of those years. I'm determined that whenever my DA finally gets announced I don't want it to impact the way I am around those people who will now shun me. My goal is to be really nice any time I see them at first and to shame them for their behavior if they refuse to interact. I'm not taking that bullcrap on myself, and I know that's a huge purpose of shunning, to make you feel lower than dirt (as if you're dead) so that you feel so ashamed you come back. Nope, not going there. I want to talk to them like I normally would and if they won't talk back I want to ask them questions like if they think they're being loving by trying to psychologically manipulate people to come back with the silent treatment. I honestly think I may have to refrain from making fun of them. I don't want to, as I don't want to be a bully myself, but I do also want to make them feel that shame, make them feel awkward like they want me to feel, make them feel rejected as they would have me feel. It's all so stupid, and I want to point it out.
I'm so sorry that it got to you like that. I've seen it before and it hurts. I think that with my family it may be harder because there was a closer relationship there that I'm more hurt by losing and I'm sure that they were hurt by my decision. But ultimately I am trying very hard to remember that I'm just being me. They are the ones treating me differently. I never did anything to them. They ARE doing something to me by shunning me. That's on them, and I don't want to take any of that on as my own. They should be ashamed of their behavior, not me.