Posts by dubstepped

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interesting stuff re the RC in my local area

by umbertoecho in

i was sent a list of places i could contact in my part of wa.

i was cautious.

i always ask if they are jws.

dubstepped

Oh wow, just learning what WA stood for and RC puts an entirely different perspective on it, lol. You have to realize that we Americans don't recognize that others don't revolve around our US centric lingo and abbreviations. What are these places that you're contacting? What is their purpose? Why might the person you're phoning be a JW if they're involved with this Royal Commission thing that you're a part of? I'm missing some details, but I understand much more now that baltar above filled in some misunderstandings on the RC and WA abbreviations.

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Done.....done done done....

by dubstepped in

my wife and i just found out that our disassociation was announced last night.

we....are...free!.

i'd like to take a moment to thank some people:.

dubstepped

umbertoecho: Oh, could you please keep thanking away to the society...........it was so entertaining for me and (I'm sure) the rest of us....You were on a role, go back to it...so droll.

Ask and ye shall receive:

I'd like to thank the organization for blaming the victim on things like 1975, and for changing doctrines under the label of "new light" instead of "we were wrong". Humility is an attractive quality. Thanks for keeping that quality under wraps.

I'm so thankful that the Society decided to pursue and kick out one Ray Franz. Had you not done that, kind sirs, he would likely never have penned Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom, two books that now mean so much to me. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Had you left him alone, he may have just died in relative silence.

I'd like to thank the congregation that I grew up in for abiding by the Society's "performance based" guidelines for appointing people in the congregation and then making my dad an elder. Oh how those rousing family talks touched my heart knowing that what he said and what he did were two completely opposite things. It allowed me to see that what is presented may not be true at all from the stage.

On that note, thank you circuit overseers for having both myself and my wife on Circuit Assemblies back in the day and allowing us to give our experiences. Well, not entirely our experiences, as you made it clear that neither of ours really measured up to the level that you wanted, so thank you for helping us embellish our goals for the future or experiences so that they were even more rousing, and yes, kind of fake. It helped us to see that most of what the people said up there was bulls%!t.

Thanks to a few congregations for giving me responsibilities or appointments over the years. Each time let me see a little bit more what goes on behind the curtain, and how it isn't what it was supposed to be. Things were so disorganized and a mess.

I'd like to thank the organization for painting everyone outside of the Witnesses as meth smoking, gun toting, STD ridden whores that lived to gamble and steal from everyone around them. It really helped us to see as we worked with "worldly" families that they were nothing like you projected them to be. That helped me to see that we had been lied to.

Thank you SO MUCH for GBTV. Putting the members of the governing body in the limelight was enlightening. Holy crap, those guys with strange personalities are the leaders of this?! Whoa!

Thank you also for Tony Morris. I mean, his loving words of counsel were so well thought out. I would have thought that having millions of eyeballs would have been the time to address petty things like how some feel left out in the congregation, or that pesky blood doctrine that is neither here nor there, or maybe how to help other people, but no, tight pants and bright socks it is. Those pressing issues were indeed something troubling. We can't let the gays win.

WTBTS, thank you for just being you.

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Done.....done done done....

by dubstepped in

my wife and i just found out that our disassociation was announced last night.

we....are...free!.

i'd like to take a moment to thank some people:.

dubstepped

DONE!!!!!!

My wife and I just found out that our disassociation was announced last night. We....are...FREE!

I'd like to take a moment to thank some people:

Thanks to this community for helping me figure things out and supporting one another in this awful journey to freedom.

I'd like to thank all of the brothers and sisters in our congregation. If you had shown the love you lay claim to showing we may never have woken up.

I'd like to thank all of the elders over the years that ignored us unless they needed us for something. Your lack of support was priceless.

I'd like to thank the organization for contradicting itself enough and making ridiculous hyperbolic assertions that I simply couldn't ignore no matter how much cognitive dissonance I experienced.

I'd like to thank both of our families for totally abandoning us when we talked to my DFed brother. Your insta-shun really helped solidify that the organization not only has no love, but also robs one of even basic familial love the split second someone steps out of line as you see it.

I'd like to thank the people that pressured me to pioneer instead of going to college. That awful year made me question the validity of your suggestions as to how my life should go.

Thanks to the congregation that I grew up in that was so over the top hyper-zealous that it nitpicked all young ones until they left the hall, and eventually the organization as a whole.

Really, I could go on forever but I'll stop. We are free of all of you in the Borg and our resistance didn't prove futile. Thanks to those that actually supported us. I look forward to telling even more of our story here and maybe even posting pics of us. No need to hide ever again!

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Exposing one's identity. When?

by kairos in

jw
friends

i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

( "reaching out", so to speak ).

i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

dubstepped

Hey Kairos,

I'm so sorry that it all goes down like this. It just isn't a fun outcome and they just make it to where there really isn't one because you just want to go live your life and they won't let you without taking others with them. It sucks. However, I'm glad to see that you're just letting it go. Getting wrapped up in trying to sue them or anything isn't likely to serve your interests. Spend your time on your wife and new life. Trying to sue or something like that is just going to take time and lots of money and they have deeper pockets than you.

You'll probably go through ups and downs for some time even after this. I know that my wife and I have good days and bad, though honestly it is more the loss of family than anything that bothers us. We both wish you well on your journey and are eagerly awaiting our announcement soon.

By the way, tonight while on a job the family talked to us about the whole J-dub stuff at length and where we stood. It was amazing to talk to people who didn't judge, just listened, and tried to be supportive. There are amazing relationships to be formed out their in the evil world with people that frankly treated us better in one conversation than the organization did in the many relationships that we thought we had. So, keep your head up. Don't worry about waking others up as much as you do enjoying your freedom, if you can, and learn to enjoy the beauty of life around you that you've likely ignored for most of your life like many of us.

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Independent article: Spiritual abuse

by Tornintwo in

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friends

i've been reading about different types of emotional abuse to help me define and cope with my difficult marriage, came across this article : 7 ways a person can be abused, by a psychologist.

http://pro.psychcentral.com/exhausted-woman/2015/08/7-ways-a-person-can-be-abused/.

includes forms of 'spiritual abuse' - these sound familiar?.

dubstepped

@Oubliette - .....Oooh, oooh, it's a cult!

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Exposing one's identity. When?

by kairos in

jw
friends

i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

( "reaching out", so to speak ).

i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

dubstepped

So Kairos, is that the end? I guess they wait until after 7 days passes and then announce? I'm hoping our DA is announced this Wednesday but who knows. They haven't been in a hurry to date.

Take care. Sorry it has to come down to such things for both of us, in a way, but looking forward to the freedom.

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Intro and Thoughts

by ThinkerBelle in

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friends

i've been lurking on the board for almost a year now and i think i'm ready to come out of hiding (although, i'm so nervous as i type this).

i'm not ready to share everything about my story, but the basics are that i'm a born-in, elder's kid, baptized as a teenager because i was tired of hearing people ask me "all your friends are baptized, when are you going to get baptized?

", married an unbeliever (was df, but came back shortly after) and we have two kids.

dubstepped

Welcome! Wow, I love your username. It is so tough to hang around once your eyes are opened. Nice to have you here.

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The social institution of the Kingdom Hall.

by The Rebel in

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friends

it is a warm sunny day, blue skies and i am excited by the prospect this sunday holds.

will i dismantle a motorbike?

paint a picture?

dubstepped

My wife and I are going to meet some new friends at their house. We are walking from there to a new neighborhood pizza place that's getting great reviews. Who knows what the day will hold. That's part of the fun, getting to organically shape your day rather than having them all dictated to you.

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My Book, 'Gifts in Men', by Patricia F.Sadio

by GiftsinMen in

another member on here announced the publication of my new book "gifts in men, a heavier responsibility" a couple of months ago and some of you asked who i was as to my authenticity and motives.

i have had an amazing reaction to my book even from jws who know me and my story but were still shocked at the details.

i was not raised a jw, not disfellowshipped nor disassociated and loved being a regular pioneer, serving in uk and ireland.

dubstepped

I think that anytime a person comes to a forum where people like you and I are vulnerable enough to tell our stories without charge, those who come merely for self-promotion and gain will be look upon unfavorably. I'm a member of many forums. On most those people are just banned for spamming. Thus those people often are received with cynicism.

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A Judicial experience.

by John Aquila in

when i was an elder in the 80s, a 16 year old baptized jw girl had confessed that at school during lunch a boy kissed her and touched her privates over her dress.

the circuit overseer was in town and we told him of the situation and he called the society and then told us that mother said we were not allowed to conduct the funeral in the kingdom hall or anywhere else with the threat of removing us and being dealt with judicially if we disobeyed.

the mother who is about 79 years old comes once a year to talk to my mom about the situation.

dubstepped

John Aquila - My mom told me today that a couple of sisters she hangs out with told her the other day that Jehovah’s spirit has left me and I’m as good as dead.

WTF is wrong with those people? Seriously, how can they tell a mom something like that? Somehow the Borg manages to not only remove the mind of the people, but their hearts too. That turned my stomach. So did the story you told. Come to think of it, there isn't much about them that doesn't, but I'm still somehow surprised at the cruelty of the people that follow the religion.

And I know it is tough, but you're much more as a human being than a person that spent so much time as JW. Sure, you never got to help out children like you mentioned, but you're helping people here through a problem that affects people that don't often have an advocate. Your posts have helped me. I'm sure that even as JW you helped others just because you're a sensitive and thoughtful guy to be more human and less artificial like the majority of the Borg. Who you are underneath the ego, underneath the JW indoctrination over those years, would have shined through and impacted others. It seems from your stories that you've come in contact with a lot of people. I'm sure you made an impact, even if it wasn't in one specific way that you would have felt was a better use of your time. We can all question what we've done with our years. Everyone does at the end, even the guy helping kids with deformed faces. He probably has something out there that he never got to try.