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  What to say? I Don't want to go to meetings anymore?

  by Drifting Away in

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  so it has been a couple of months since me and my family have attended a meeting.

  we have received a few calls and visits.

  but what do you say when people ask "where have you been"?

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  Home, out having fun, how about you? Where have YOU been?
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  Are photos allowed as evidence at a JC? Thought they weren't-re: pale.emporer thread.

  by PaintedToeNail in

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  i thought that photos weren't allowed as proof of sin to the jc because they can be faked.

  same with audio recordings.. this thread in response to the pale.emporer thread where his sister-in-law snooped on his computer, found his info from here and took pictures of it.

  if the photos and recording are not allowed for a jc, this could be valuable info to anyone else who has a sneaky relative trying to 'out' them with photos or recordings.. anyone have any info on this?.

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  What Doc said. I mean, if memory serves they can have evidence that a person of sexual immorality by watching from a car as someone else's car is observed overnight at your house. There's no real evidence of sex, but it doesn't matter. Ultimately it's up to whatever 3 men decide on any given day. After all, God's spirit is directing them, right?
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  Can you relate?

  by TimeBandit in

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  i used to try really hard to fit in when i was an active, true blue jw.

  somehow it hardly ever paid off.

  time after time i attempted to mingle and make jw friends.

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  BlackWolf, I've loved following your story even through the pain. Why? Because you're so young and awake. It is a double edged sword in that you are at the mercy of your parents and other things at your young age, but on the other side you get to get out with your whole life ahead of you. You have a chance to learn and grow in ways that many of us didn't get because we wasted years trying to fit into someone else's mold. I'm so sorry for your pain but so excited for how awesome your life can be while those haters in your life now live in their tiny miserable box.
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  Can you relate?

  by TimeBandit in

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  i used to try really hard to fit in when i was an active, true blue jw.

  somehow it hardly ever paid off.

  time after time i attempted to mingle and make jw friends.

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  Oh yeah. I fit in at the congregation I grew up in because I had roots there. I moved not far away and started over and tried for years without ever fitting in. My wife and I tried hard, even had pretty much the entire congregation over for chili parties in small groups one year, but still nothing. We would go out to eat after meetings or just in general and come across the same cliques sitting together at a restaurant while we sat alone, over and over again. We heard tales of their epic camping trips that we were never invited to, how they all went up to watch a football game that we weren't invited to, and so on. I once bought a bunch of pizza because I had a bunch of young people that were supposed to come over back when I was single. Not one single person actually showed, they all went and did something else. On the plus side, I had leftover pizza that I could have eaten for weeks. :(

  For an organization that claims to be identified by love, they are the most cliquish, judgmental, small minded douchebags I've ever had the displeasure of meeting. There was no real love or bond, just busy work and meetings where people talked because they were there for a common cause. Once the meeting was over, so was everything else unless you were in the cool club and lucky enough to have your own clique. There was no real inclusion. Large families dominated the landscape and were the focal point of those that had any hope of being in a group.

  Like you I had people turn away when I approached at times, and it hurts, but what hurts more is being stuck in a cult because you fooled yourself into thinking those people actually care about you. I have friends now that care about ME, not me with some arbitrary rules system in between us.
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  I've been found out!

  by pale.emperor in

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  well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.

  someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.

  i just feel sad for my daughter.

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  They don't care about privacy. They care about punishment, about rules, and about keeping up appearances. They don't care about people, about love, about any of the things they claim.

  I DID like the point earlier about some sort of law that has to do with snooping around people's computers, and honestly if someone did that to me and it wrecked my life I'd probably come back with that law if it could work in my favor somehow. Or I'd just let it go and move on. Depending on the mood I'd either crush them like bugs or just let it ride and move on, lol.
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  I've been found out!

  by pale.emperor in

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  well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.

  someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.

  i just feel sad for my daughter.

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  They dont have what they need for a judicial committee unless you want it.
  She is only ONE witness to the alleged offense. They have to have two.

  If she took pics of it on his computer that would probably be sufficient. That two witness rule gets pretty dodgy if conclusive proof is presented. Besides, he pretty much copped to it already. It's done. I'm sorry PE but just know that after the initial drama life gets better than you ever dreamed. I hate that there will be collateral damage with the child and your marriage, and you have my deepest sympathy. I'm truly sorry but remember that this is but one moment in time, a snapshot of your life which is actually a filmstrip in length. It's a bad scene, but it can get better as the movie plays.
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  I've been found out!

  by pale.emperor in

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  well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.

  someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.

  i just feel sad for my daughter.

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  Alright everybody...... in your best Spartacus impersonation.....

  I am Pale Emperor.
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  Need some help: Existential crisis in full swing

  by Freeandclear in

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  so is anyone else having an existential crisis after becoming fully awake?

  let me explain.

  about 2 years ago i read coc, still believed and tried to get back in da troof.

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  You seem to be fixated on everlasting things (sounds like the dubs on a level). You don't seem to see value in things that don't go on forever. Why? If you make an impact on a person today, why is that not good enough. If you experience love or pleasure today, why is that not good just because it doesn't last forever? Life is a jour, not a destination. You have to find joy and meaning in the every day things because those immediate rewards are enough. You can't live for some time deep in the future.
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  Why Are You Here?

  by Believer in

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  i'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.

  as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.

  as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.

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  Believer, you will find less aggression toward you when you realize that not everyone deserves your time or reply. There are certain people that I avoid here just like in the real world. They aren't going to see things my way, nor I theirs. Evidence is often open to interpretation and if we see something different that's got to be okay, but there's no use in continuing a conversation with that person.

  I'm no longer really a "believer" as I take you to mean it, but even when I was I still came here because life and exiting a cult is bigger than a single belief structure. There's so much to talk about and to learn. I also like to help where I can when others are hurting while leaving the dubs.

  Time and attention are precious commodities. You can't control who responds to you or how, but you can decide who to take seriously and who to ignore. In marketing speak there are people that are your "target audience" and those that aren't. It's tough because their is backlash from those that aren't your target, but your discussions can still prove profitable.
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

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  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  dubstepped

  But Urantia was written in the 1950's, right? Hardly a credible source. It's not like testimony from someone that was there, right? You believe what you believe, it doesn't matter to me, but I think Cofty and Simon were looking more for writings from Jesus' contemporaries.