The indoctrination is strong, isn't it. Wow, such a great ending to that story. Welcome to the forum! My wife and I just did our second Christmas and had so much fun. It gets easier over time.
dubstepped
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First Christmas without the guilt
by Apostate Anonymous ini have lurked around the site for about 3 months and finally decided to join.
this will be my first time creating a topic here.
a little backstory for me.
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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dubstepped
Yes, I have 2 podcasts. "This JW Life" is my personal story. Feel free to read something into a paragraph's worth of material and affix labels to me too, lol. I guess if someone can do it then I can be raked over the coals too and I'll suddenly owe them something.
That podcast is done but I leave it up to help as many as I can. I can only talk about myself for so long.
People emailed me and didn't want it to end because there isn't much out there for us. I know because I listen to podcasts and books all day while I work. I wanted more too. Doing the show kind of scratches my own itch, but it's not easy.
So I started "shunned" as people emailed me wanting to tell their stories. I give up my time and pay for what it takes to help them tell their stories. I didn't want to monetize my first podcast because I didn't want to catch crap from JWs. I'd be a self-important liar looking for money in their eyes if I made money from my efforts. Apparently the same might apply from the exJW community if I dared to make money despite people requesting that I set up a page for such. I haven't yet, but only because I want to establish the show first. At some point might because I spend my time and money on it and I'm sure some may take offense. I don't know if I'll care to dignify accusations with a response or not when and if the time comes. I'm not a fan of all the exJW personality drama.
I'm helping people and that's what I care about. If you listen and have suggestions I'm all ears. So far people seem to like the new one. I have an episode coming out in February that is a very special story that hopefully will impact lots of people. It was very heavy. Most episodes take 2 hours to record and lots of time to edit, upload, promote, etc. His took over 6 hours just to record, over two weekends. It's amazing what people go through in the cult. I'm glad people help get their stories out there. I have my style and others have theirs.
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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dubstepped
Why don't the people on those threads you linked to, the actual people he was openly discussing his ideas with, seem nearly as butthurt by his book ideas as the people here today? People seemed excited and were willing to take part and help. Now he's a monster for doing the same?
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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dubstepped
Lol, the number of nuggets left behind is staggering. Grown ass people don't know how to complete the process more often then one would think. Did I mention how much glory was involved? I think I did. :)
Oh, and I owe it all to the preparation for life given to me by Jehovah's spirit directed organization.
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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dubstepped
Well, I do clean the bathrooms in all of the houses we have cleaned for 17+ years. I figured it up to be roughly 30,000 bathrooms that I've cleaned in my illustrious career. So if the riches aren't enough, there is also glory to be found.
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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dubstepped
Diogenesister: If word got out that you were loaded
Well then, let's not mention it here, lol. My house cleaning riches and podcast millions need to be kept under wraps.
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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dubstepped
@OTWO - I agree. He's terrible with apologies and seems good at coming up with ways to need to apologize.
As for the funds, I don't like it, but apparently some do if he's got sales and donors and it's not up to me to like what others like. If some want to do it to show support then that's up to them. None of them have to prove anything to me, neither Lloyd nor his supporters. They're free to do their thing.
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What Made You Decide To Finally Leave The Organization?
by minimus inwas there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?.
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dubstepped
For me it was primarily getting mentally and emotionally healthy and realizing that there was no real love in the organization. The way they talked about everyone outside of the organization, and they way people inside dealt with each other, betrayed a lack of love. They "use" people in the congregation, they call each other "friends" while being in cliques, they look down on so many people and their egos are wrapped up in being self-righteous. It was just ugliness. That started it all for me. It took years to get healthy, and then it honestly wasn't until after we disassociated that I even broke down enough of the doctrine to realize that they were wrong about so many things. I knew enough to get me out, but even after we left I still had a lot to learn about the cult.
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Wave your phone lights and dance at the Assemblies!
by days of future passed inmy sister sent me this youtube.
in it are witnesses waving their phone lights and dancing in the aisles.
sorry if this vid has been posted before.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k7iw-zisgw.
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dubstepped
How was that video less than 2 minutes? It felt like an eternity watching it. Wow.
I always told people that there wasn't anything really emotional to connect with in the cult. Looks like they found it. Formerly it was mostly fear and shame and doom and gloom. Now they've brought in repetitive but cheerful music for people to get wrapped up in and have people up dancing. Ugh.
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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dubstepped
I said: If he owned up to some mistake in the past is he forever defined by it like a disfellowshipped person is forever labeled unless they come crawling back?
Morpheus replied: As for your ridiculous comparisons to being df’d.... please. Because i think someone is an ass and dont want to deal with them dosent equate cult shunning. Thats called life. We dont all see eye to eye and we dont all like each other as besties. To take personal decisions and try to equate them to cult instituted shunning trivializes the pain inflicted by the cults manditory shunning. It also takes away the responsibility i willingly bear for having a view of a person.
So I wanted to let this go, but I'm somewhat obsessive and although I was working and didn't have time earlier I wanted to address the above because it was rolling around in my mind. I didn't feel like your categorization of what I said was fair at all.
My point and question was about a forever label, not an act like shunning. Like labeling John Lloyd a pedo or whatever. A person that has been disfellowshipped and labeled a fornicator or whatever is forever branded with that label unless and until they address the situation.
So you took my question about that label and how labels stick to a person and made it all about what you wanted it to be about for some reason, the act of shunning. So much so that you accused me of trivializing the pain inflicted by the cult's mandatory shunning. Really? Again, I never discussed the act of shunning and was talking about labels that stick to people unless they come crawling back, exactly what people are doing here by expecting him to address labels that are being put upon him based on reading into the terms used in his book. You are the one talking about acts of cult shunning, not me. I never even used the word.
For the record, I am shunned. My wife is shunned. My first act of rebellion was going against the shunning policy and visiting my brother knowing that it would get me shunned. I do a podcast called "shunned" where I help people tell their stories of being shunned. But you accused me of trivializing it. See how easy it is to take words, read things into them, and then jump to assertions? Who knows, maybe someday I'll say something on my podcast that people can hate on me with. Oh to be so famous, lol.
When it comes to Cedar Evans, he certainly has been a polarizing figure. I don't agree with a lot of what he's said or done, and the piling on seems odd, but this site does seem rather anti-Evan Johns, so maybe it's just par for the course here. Maybe there's a history with him that I don't even know. People aren't all good or all bad. Clearly he has some of both in him too.