Woah, wha......?
That... Is... Awesome.
I'm going to order them and ship them to all my JW relatives, lol. Amazon has a gift service. :)
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Blood Card Issue
by pometerre21 ini posted this on r/exjw, but i thought i might post it here as well.
so the elders in our kh are moving to get us to sign new simplified blood cards and keep them on file.
i really need to not rock the boat in my current pimo status because of circumstances.. my cousin knows i have doubts about the blood thing, but i can’t show her that my doubts are getting to me.
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Is your life worth playing legal games over? I don't know the technicalities, but I do know that in the event of an emergency they will bring that copy to the hospital and lock you down. Who is then going to show up with some other documents rescinding the no blood mandate? Will they stand a chance when Witness after Witness to your JW affiliation says that they saw you sign the card, saw you at the meetings, etc? What if you need blood now and it's delayed for a legal fight?
Don't sign the card or give them copies. That would be my stance if I had to stay in. Your life isn't worth any of those people.
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Is he interested?
by Sunnybear ini met a wonderful man on match.com several months ago.
on our first date, there was amazing chemistry and we ended up having sex.
it was not planned, it just happened.
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By the way, if you want to learn about life in the cult you can hear my story on the podcast called This JW Life or at thisjwlife.com. I give a look inside the inner workings of the cult, including not just how things work but why they are that way alongside my life before being a jw, after my parents became JWs, and my path out of it.
I've had over 17,000 downloads and have been told by outsiders that it really helped them make sense of their JW family or former friends. People have used it to get their partners to understand what it was like coming from that world. It's free, I just want to help others avoid mistake that cost me three decades of my life. Of course, I was just a child, but my parents made a huge mistake.
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Is he interested?
by Sunnybear ini met a wonderful man on match.com several months ago.
on our first date, there was amazing chemistry and we ended up having sex.
it was not planned, it just happened.
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You asked how he would be if you were sick and needed him. Ask him how he would react if you were in an accident and needed a blood transfusion to save your life? Or barring that, could you watch the man you love so much die because he wouldn't take blood? That's right, they are forbidden to take blood.
By the way, this whole I don't want to cause trouble/I can't stand up for myself in big things if someone treats me nice in small ones is how people end up in cults. Yeah, that JW sends up red flags but oh, they're so nice. Yes they are. Manipulative sociopaths often are too. That's how they get their victims. They're nice when they want something, but when you don't want something that they want for you it doesn't go well.
I think we're wasting our time. You have this guy built up in your head. He's a man of works from a works based cult where it's all about appearances but very hollow inside. You are enamored with him paying for meals and doing the works outwardly, but how much does he connect deeply. He doesn't respect your wishes to the point that you'd have to ghost him. Do you realize that's how many have to leave the cult? To ghost them and start a new life elsewhere? They don't let up. He isn't letting up. What are you will to let happen?
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Is he interested?
by Sunnybear ini met a wonderful man on match.com several months ago.
on our first date, there was amazing chemistry and we ended up having sex.
it was not planned, it just happened.
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Who told you it "sounds" a little like a cult.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY A CULT
You have page after page of people telling you as much. What more do you need?
Again I'll point out that you broke up with him and he "refused" so you are still with him. WTF?
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Im Writing An Ex-JW Self Help Book
by pale.emperor inwe all know waking up from the cult and trying to leave is a very scary and life changing experience.
for many it's traumatic and few find the transition easy.
we have to deal with families cutting us off entirely or keeping us at arms length at best, lies being told about us by the organization, ex members gossiping about us and finding ourselves in a world very different from what we're prepared for.. for this reason, i've decided to start writing a self-help book informing jws of what to expect when they leave the org.
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Great idea! I vote for the third title because it's easily understandable. You could also do a combination of #4-#3.
Wide Awake! - How to Cope After Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses
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Is he interested?
by Sunnybear ini met a wonderful man on match.com several months ago.
on our first date, there was amazing chemistry and we ended up having sex.
it was not planned, it just happened.
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I can't get past you trying to end it and him "refusing". Why are you still seeing him? You do realize you have a choice, right? It only takes one to end it.
Honestly, he's got you on the down low and is trying to convert you as well. He's messed up. Step back outside yourself and read what you wrote. It sounds abusive and like you're just along for the abusive ride. If it starts like this, do you think it will get better?
Tell him to get lost. He doesn't respect you, and you need to respect yourself. Nothing screams desperate like dating a guy because he refuses to take no for an answer and then looking into his cult. JWs are a powerful cult that utterly destroy families.
R-U-N, not just from him but also to see a therapist to see what makes you attracted to a guy like this. You're willing to overlook huge red flags, and that may be something you need to address internally.
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NY City Meet-Up on Saturday, March 31st; 6:00 - 9:00 PM
by patlynnw inmy name is patricia warmack, a ny city ex-jw.
javin michael and i are hosting an ex-jw meet-up on saturday, march 31st, 6:00 - 9:00 pm.
address is 520 eighth avenue, room 16t, new york, ny.
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@Rubadub - If it's for exjws, why not on Memorial night? Seems like it would give them something encouraging to do while their former friends and family memorialize.
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Who deserves the title of king of apostasy ?
by Chook ini think this would be a noble endeavour..
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An apostate, per definition, is a person that renounces a religious belief. I can't speak for you, but I'm an apostate and most mentioned would fit that definition. Just because Watchtower adds qualifiers like being "mentally diseased" doesn't change the meaning of the word or make it somehow less fitting.
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NY City Meet-Up on Saturday, March 31st; 6:00 - 9:00 PM
by patlynnw inmy name is patricia warmack, a ny city ex-jw.
javin michael and i are hosting an ex-jw meet-up on saturday, march 31st, 6:00 - 9:00 pm.
address is 520 eighth avenue, room 16t, new york, ny.
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dubstepped
Hi Patricia, and welcome to the forum. I'm not sure how many we have here from NYC. You should post on Facebook groups like the Ex Jehovah's Witnesses recovery group 3 and the exjw Reddit group as well.
My brother lives in Manhattan. He's an exjw. I'll let him know.
Let me know how this goes. I'd be interested in knowing what kind of exjw community you have up there. I do a podcast called "shunned" and my sister-in-law wants me to do a live shunned podcast recording/meetup up there near the old Brooklyn Bethel. I'm interested, though terrified of coming out from behind the mic and being on stage (JW flashbacks), but if there's a good exjw community that is supportive I might do it.