May I ask why you want to go back? Or is this not about you?
dubstepped
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Reinstatement
by Pinky inwhat questions do the elders ask you when you are in your meeting requesting to get reinstated ?.
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Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status
by dubstepped ini am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.
i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.
maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.
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dubstepped
I think the above is kind of why I tend to do my own thing. I've heard too many awful stories about people going in together on ex-JW projects. Dave Ramsey likes to say that the only ship that won't sail is a partnership. I'm sure that many also work, but I tend to be a lone ranger. Then I don't have to be responsible for anyone else, especially at first. I see a nonprofit that grows as needing help with specific tasks but I'd probably hire outside to get things done. It's just my style.
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Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status
by dubstepped ini am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.
i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.
maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.
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dubstepped
Oh, no worries Nathan, I knew you were just sharing quality stuff. I have no qualms saying that I'm a dummy in many areas of life. We all start out ignorant of many things and have to learn somewhere. The goal is not to stay a dummy when you come up against something where you need to learn.
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Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status
by dubstepped ini am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.
i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.
maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.
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dubstepped
You trying to say something with those last two book recommendations? Lol.
Nolo puts out quality stuff. I've used them before.
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Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status
by dubstepped ini am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.
i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.
maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.
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dubstepped
I am dealing with a local person that sets up nonprofits for children's hospitals and that does major fundraising. The original goal was to raise funds for things like deposits on housing for people thrown out on the streets (often due to domestic violence or young people that get shunned), for college scholarships, for job skills training, and for therapy.
Essentially setting up a nonprofit is starting a business. It is starting a corporation with a board and everything and almost a proof of concept, proving that you can raise funds. There is a lot of paperwork to do, we'll need a lawyer and an accountant, and to set up a board. Ultimately from a fundraising perspective this is sales and marketing. My contact thinks that the scholarship option is the best one. It needs to be focused on one thing. So it appears that will be my focus going forward but she is pitching the ideas to some local proven donors to get some qualified feedback. I should be meeting her again tomorrow to see where we stand on this.
Doing this made me look at this whole thing differently, and then when I interviewed this person and she linked the time slips to the nonprofit side of things it made sense to me if they aren't taking in money and spending it directly linked to charitable pursuits. It seems as though there needs to be something to use to quantify the results and that the time slips are it. It may simply be that qualifying as a church creates a nonprofit entity by default, but there is some ambiguity there and my adhd brain couldn't stand reading anymore tax rules for the moment.
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Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status
by dubstepped ini am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.
i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.
maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.
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dubstepped
Yes, they do claim to do charitable work as to disaster zones, though we have also heard that they send brothers in after the volunteers do all of the work and leave on their own dimes and then they ask for the insurance checks.
So yeah, they are definitely kings of obfuscation and weasel words. I'm reading the publication and form 1023 but my eyes are getting blurry at this point and I'm not sure how much I care to dig in. I just thought it was an interesting point that made a lot of sense in giving them something to report that would be the crux of their supposed charitable work of preaching which is the main work that they do.
Or maybe simply qualifying as a church gives one all they truly need. The form 1023 requests more specifics and then there are mentions of "other circumstances" that are unclear that are taken into consideration. I guess without talking directly to a governmental entity that makes such decisions it would be hard to know anything for sure. It's still interesting to me, all of it.
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Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status
by dubstepped ini am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.
i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.
maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.
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dubstepped
We'll see where this posts as the box is above blondie's last post, lol.
Anyway, that seems to be the definition of a church. The link you provided says that it is the definition of the church, and that along with other facts and circumstances it is determined whether one is a church for federal tax purposes. They give a tax publication that apparently goes further into it but it may be more involved. -
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Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status
by dubstepped ini am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.
i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.
maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.
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dubstepped
Maybe that's part of it blondie. I could see that though it seems such a small part of the group I'm not sure how it would qualify. Seems the JWs are more into learning other languages than teaching English. Maybe that qualifies as an outreach, self-serving as it all may be.
I'd be curious to hear more about other groups that do nothing charitable that maintain charitable status as roseofjuly mentioned.
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Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status
by dubstepped ini am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.
i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.
maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.
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dubstepped
Fascinating that you joined the forum just to post this. Curious as to your background.
From what I gather there must be some way to quantify some sort of activity that can be determined to meet the IRS criteria in order to justify donations. Lots of other churches actually do charitable works. Jehovah's Witnesses do not.
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Something I had never thought about re: the Borg's nonprofit status
by dubstepped ini am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-jws with specific goals and i've learned more about the process.
i was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that i had never considered.
maybe everyone else has but i don't remember seeing anything about it here.
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dubstepped
I am actually looking into the possibility of starting my own nonprofit for ex-JWs with specific goals and I've learned more about the process. I was interviewing someone for the podcast that is familiar with nonprofits and she told me something that I had never considered. Maybe everyone else has but I don't remember seeing anything about it here.
I always wondered how the Borg keep a nonprofit status when they don't really do anything charitable. She told me that it is the time slips that everyone turns in that gives them "volunteer hours" and that is why you have to turn one in each month. I had never thought about that as the backbone of the nonprofit status. I knew that even as a JW I would fire back about our worldwide preaching work when people questioned me about what kind of charity we did, and I guess it is, though it is those time reports that really give them the status. I just never really linked the two. No wonder they're all about numbers.
Maybe there's more to it that someone will shed light on. Maybe everyone already knew this. I just found it interesting and it makes sense.