@Queequeg - Jenny was happy in her role. We all have different talents to be used in different situations. She helped in securing this opportunity and some development by giving me feedback. I'm the one that goes deeper in this realm and I'm sure she'd be better suited than I for other opportunities in life. Rest assured that we both worked toward our strengths in this and though you see the end result there was more going on behind the scenes than you could know. :)
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I got to give a speech at the University of Louisville today about JWs and Propaganda
by dubstepped intoday my wife and i went to college.
although not allowed to go to college as jws we got to lead a class today and it was really special to be able to do that.
the class was an honors class on social media and psychology and i created a presentation around the propaganda and manipulation used against us as jws.
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I got to give a speech at the University of Louisville today about JWs and Propaganda
by dubstepped intoday my wife and i went to college.
although not allowed to go to college as jws we got to lead a class today and it was really special to be able to do that.
the class was an honors class on social media and psychology and i created a presentation around the propaganda and manipulation used against us as jws.
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Today my wife and I went to college. Although not allowed to go to college as JWs we got to lead a class today and it was really special to be able to do that. The class was an honors class on social media and psychology and I created a presentation around the propaganda and manipulation used against us as JWs. Many of the same things are seen in social media and impacts the way we see things that are posted on sites like this.
The students were assigned to listen to episode 5 of This JW Life first, my first podcast, where I talked about the FOG and BITE models of cult control. Some let us know before class how excited they were, others came up after class (one even in a restaurant later) and thanked us for speaking. My presentation was just over 50 minutes and we ran out of time for questions.
What a cool experience for two people that didn't have a chance when they were of typical college age.
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REVEAL:THE CENTRE OF INVESTIGATING :Jehovah’s Witness leader says child sex abuse claims are ‘lies’
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara ininterestinng article.
also has more links in the article to read further stuff on jdubs.. https://www.revealnews.org/article/jehovahs-witness-leader-says-child-sex-abuse-claims-are-lies/.
https://www.revealnews.org/article/jehovahs-witnesses-use-1st-amendment-to-hide-child-sex-abuse-claims/.
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I'm not saying that the articles aren't accurate, but this is from 2015, not anything new. They're still assholes but they aren't newly anointed assholes.
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Yes, absolutely Zalkin.
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"Cults And Extreme Beliefs " on Foxtel On Demand Vict.Aust. has this been screened Elsewhere ?
by smiddy3 ina heads up .
for those in victoria australia this coming friday the 29th of march foxtel on demand is streaming the first of a series called "cults and extreme beliefs" and the first series deals with nxivm a notorious sex cult.. "emmy award winning journalist elizabeth vargas through first hand insights of survivors the series lifts the veil of secrecy on groups such as the jehovah`s witnesses ,children of god ,twelve tribes ,and the survivors .by analyzing how the sects use their influence to manipulate and control.the series reveals the insidious and sophisticated psychological techniques used by the groups to wield influence over otherwise intelligent ,sceptical and sensible adults.
it sounds like a show i would like to see about the jw`s however i don`t subscribe to foxtel .maybe it will be shown on some other network.. has anybody from other parts of the world seen this show ?
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Yes, I saw that in the US what seems like a year or so ago. It featured a lady named Romy and her story of sexual abuse. Barbara Anderson is in it as well. It was well done.
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My mom
by vienne ini'm annie, rachael's daughter.
mom died yesterday.
i can't find a way to delete her account here.
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Oh wow, I'm so sorry for your loss. It's very sobering. She seemed like a great lady and certainly brought value here. If there are any that write nasty comments about her, that's a reflection of then and their CULTure, not of your mom. It's really disgusting. Take care of yourself in this process as you're executing her desires. May it shed even more light on her life for you and who she was as you work through these things. She will be missed.
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Another example of abuse and the JWs.......
by dubstepped inepisode twenty seven - georgia is shunned by jehovah's witnesses.
georgia grew up in what jehovah’s witnesses often refer to as a “divided household”.
her mother was a faithful jw, her father violently opposed.
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Episode Twenty Seven - Georgia is shunned by Jehovah's Witnesses
Georgia grew up in what Jehovah’s Witnesses often refer to as a “divided household”. Her mother was a faithful JW, her father violently opposed. In this episode you’ll see how that opposition actually played into the hands of the Witnesses. You’ll see how someone from an abusive situation ended up in another abusive situation after being raped. Georgia faces PTSD after a life of abuse, secret Bible study drills, and the doctrine of an imminent fiery destruction of the world, but she does so with a sense of humor and going for her dreams in life.
You can listen on the podcast app of your choice such as iTunes, Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Podbean, Podcast Republic (my personal choice), or many others.
You can also listen on my website at:
https://shunnedpodcast.com/episode-twenty-seven-georgia-is…/Or you can find the podcast on Youtube at:
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Climate Change - True Believer or Skeptic?
by Simon inclimate change ... who doesn't believe it?
crazy fools and science deniers ... right?.
it seems like it's become the new religion, the new orthodoxy, that must be accepted and believed as gospel and preached to all.. is it ok to be skeptical?.
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I'm glad you brought this up as it seems to be blasphemous to ever question this. I'm not saying that it's real or not as I've not spent time researching it myself, but it's the way that climate change or global warming or whatever it's marketed as today that makes me skeptical. It's too reminiscent of propaganda with end of the world scenarios that are just around the corner. My guess is that yes, this is happening and we are contributing but that forecasts of imminent doom are vastly emotional overstatements.
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And JW's are not allowed to think about sex? O_o
by nowawake14 ini thought this might catch your eye.
especially if you're a man.. they say thinking about sex is wrong!
that's biologically impossible.
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I was with you stuckinarut until the end with the restaurant analogy. Mouth stuff is not acceptable under any circumstances, lol.
Seriously though, their anti-sex stance really messes people up. Not only do they really devastate people that are gay, but they also manage to wreck the sexuality of the heteros in their midst.
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Need help. Daughter wants to leave org but does not know how.
by Indian Larry inlong question, but very important.. i can use some help.
my daughter wants out of the organization and i need some advise.. here is my background in a nutshell.
i am fully faded for 10+ years.
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You asked for advice. Mine wasn't what you wanted to hear and you ran away. I will respond because 1. I'm not your daughter and you can't control me and 2. I care about your daughter and am challenging the paradigm that got her feeling depressed and suicidal while you seem to want to think that that very paradigm is all good and she just needs a therapist and a good PIMO friend.
I get why you would be concerned about her going onto sites where she might find things out for herself with her suicidal feelings. She didn't catch those feelings from going online though, she caught them from the life she's already living. Yes, isolation can make one feel suicidal, like living in a cult where you don't fit in and know you don't fit in especially once you start seeing through the bullshit for yourself. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. That doesn't mean that my situation is defining here either. You asked a question. Don't do that if you only want the answers that you want. You can't control everything.
Regardless, you don't get to control your adult daughter, you coming here asking for ways to help her is kind but also *could* be boundary crossing. Your daughter is an adult and needs to be able to handle herself and stand on her own two feet. She and she alone has to find her way out of this in her own way. It may not be your way, and your way may be unhealthy for her.
I fully admitted that I could be wrong in my assertions and tried to have a dialogue but you're so defensive (probably because something hit home) that you are willing to throw away ideas and discussion because you seem to be struggling to admit that you might just be in the wrong with some way in which you're handling this. So my question to you would be, is there anything maybe you could have done better? Is there anything you could do better now to be there for your daughter without controlling her to encourage her autonomy and growth as an adult human? I know that you read something about suicide on the internet, but might it be that there could be more to the story? Have you discussed with your daughter what her feelings are and how you could support her rather than deciding on your own what she needs and how to help?
What is it about someone questioning the situation that makes you run away? Could you be missing out on some potential benefit through the questions of others, something that could actually help your daughter that you care about? Why do you run from this honest and open questioning?
Do you trust your daughter? Do you feel like you've equipped her to make good decisions on her own? Why do you think that she'll come somewhere like this and be told to rip the bandaid off and be shunned like you said? Do you think that she will simply follow suit because someone on a forum told her to leave? What if disassociating and calling it quits on the JWs was best for her? Could you envision a scenario where that could be the case? How would you feel if she disassociated and was happier being free? Would you be able to be happy for her, or would you feel threatened in some way because she took a step that you haven't taken?
Yes, I am going to question you (and I know sometimes the questions are hard) and the situation. I do it to help, especially since you have a daughter feeling desperate enough to contemplate suicide. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is insanity. Something clearly needs to change. You are her father. In this time she needs you, if you are truly healthy for her, which sadly often parents aren't. With or without you she'll find her own path if she doesn't feel so much shame from violating her promise that you pushed her to make to you regarding finding her own path by researching online. You don't get to be the only source of information for her, procuring and deciding what she can look at and what she can't, or even what she can or cannot handle. In fact, behavior, information, thought and emotional control are the BITE model exerted by cults on people that they want to control. We're all guilty of thinking that we know what's best for someone and trying to control things that aren't ours to control.
You want to help your daughter and that's a beautiful quality. You wanting to control her, even if you believe it's for her own good, isn't necessarily healthy even with good motives. She has to find her own way ultimately.