Posts by dubstepped

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Exposing one's identity. When?

by kairos in

jw
friends

i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

( "reaching out", so to speak ).

i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

dubstepped

I just wanted to chime in and tell you that if you decide to do so, it is okay to let go. It takes more strength to let go than it does to continue to engage. If I'm reading this all wrong, feel free to tell me, but from what I read and gathered it just looks like this whole thing is taking a toll on people that are already beat down and fragile (you and your wife). You deserve better than those people. You can fight them tooth and nail and expend tremendous energy that might be better spent loving on yourself and your wife and saving what actually matters. My wife and I just DA'ed (still waiting on elders to find our letter and get their act together enough to make the formal announcement) and it is so freeing. I'm a natural fighter that doesn't go down without getting my licks in. However, I see more and more how that's just my ego trying to control things that are often out of my control. I don't know all of your history or claim to, but I hate to see you getting yourself so worked up over something that doesn't matter, as you say. It doesn't matter, so let it go. Let them go. Save your energy to fight for those things that matter and just send them a DA letter and move on. I know that a lot of people here criticize that strategy as letting them win, but I'm the one sitting here in peace and freedom while others are fighting these intense battles and going through tremendous agony to keep up something that is toxic at best.

Please take these words for what they are, my care for you even though I don't know you. I see the hurt and anger (which usually comes from pain) in your posts. I see you fighting so hard to control how this thing goes down and getting yourself worked up. Please take care of yourself first, and your wife.

Peace.

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What does it mean to be inactive??

by DATA-DOG in

well, i sat through day 1 or the "imitate jesus" convention.

they released the new brochure for inactive ones.

while no tomo-esque rants took place, it seems that the official policy is that "inactivity" merits the death sentence.

dubstepped

Ok. 6 months of zero service = death sentence. Got it.
DD

Of course, as you must know by now, the ONLY activity that counts is driving around in a car wasting time and gas knocking on doors where nobody is home. Nothing else counts as activity. You can be good person that takes an interest in all of those in the congregation that nobody cares about, serve your community in any capacity with intensity for helping others, live an entirely moral life, be generous with your money, energy, and time in other ways, etc., but it doesn't "COUNT". You know, like on a time slip which is all that matters to them. If it can't be reported on that field service time slip, it doesn't matter. You don't matter. The only thing that matters is numbers in accordance with the guidelines they set up for what counts and what doesn't. Life is really only for those that perform up to their narrow standards of what really matters.

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What does it mean to be inactive??

by DATA-DOG in

well, i sat through day 1 or the "imitate jesus" convention.

they released the new brochure for inactive ones.

while no tomo-esque rants took place, it seems that the official policy is that "inactivity" merits the death sentence.

dubstepped

Witness My Fury has it. I think you're irregular if you skip one month of reporting, inactive after 6 consecutive months.

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Alll cruel treatment soon to end the dam has broke

by poopie in

jw
friends

paddy wack.

dubstepped

Uh, no. Shunning and such will continue. Cruelty still exists within the JW religion and will continue to do so. They will likely make some changes to policy on the way that sexual abuse is handled, just enough to satisfy the courts, and that's it. Jackson made it very clear that they have no intent of letting up on their shun fun.

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Standing for Judge Okay - Standing for Anthem Wrong

by berrygerry in

for decades before leaving, i always found this contradiction so hypocritical, and one of the harshest, emotionally damaging, things that this cult does to its young.

dubstepped

Maybe technically it wasn't against the rules, but my parents and others I knew made their kids sit at times. I got in trouble with one teacher over it, and other teachers made me sit out in the hall and walk back into the room when it was over. I eventually wised up to the fact that I could stand without making such a scene and went that route as I got older.

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" --is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses"

by prologos in

i am too old understand the rc exchanges, but i can think of this scenario:.

a brother writes a letter that he can not continue support the organisation, congregation because of the spasm between new and old light*, will stop service.

* within a short time a brother is found to be a serial child rapist and because of the publicity,- disfellowshipped .

dubstepped

Oh yeah, fading was preferable but we didn't want to play their game. It takes to much mental and emotional energy to keep up appearances for people that are poised to hit you with the shun gun at first chance. I'll post my whole story soon. Just trying to get the whole ordeal done for now. Elders aren't sure they have our DA letters that were sent almost two weeks ago. Who knows who gets the mail or what they do with it, lol. Such a clusterf@#k, the whole thing. There is no such thing as "live and let live" in the Borg. You will be assimilated or you will eventually be forced out organizationally or by family and friends one at a time as you fade. Not many people that I've seen can walk away without losing almost everything and everyone they had in the religion. All or nothing is the name of the game.

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" --is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses"

by prologos in

i am too old understand the rc exchanges, but i can think of this scenario:.

a brother writes a letter that he can not continue support the organisation, congregation because of the spasm between new and old light*, will stop service.

* within a short time a brother is found to be a serial child rapist and because of the publicity,- disfellowshipped .

dubstepped

Lumping everybody together is convenient. My wife and I just DA'd and are waiting for notification of our announcement. Maybe if the two of us go out together people may realize it was our choice, who knows. A few do know for sure, as we wrote goodbye letters to family.

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Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commission Live Hearing Now!

by LostinJapan in

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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

dubstepped

@umbertoecho

I thought the same thing. Jackson was using it as a chance to witness about the size of the organization and the supposed brotherhood where elders know and care about all of their sheep (never seen it). Blah, blah, blah, just a lot of fluff and McLellan get sick of it.

I love how Jackson gets mad when Angus doesn't follow along as he goes on his long diatribes with scriptures about something that doesn't answer the question asked anyway. Angus is shuffling papers and preparing his next point as Jackson attempts to dazzle them, and then Jackson gets mad and questions whether or not Angus can hear him. You're not so worshiped on this stage, eh Mr. Jackson? You can't get away with deflection so easily, can you? I love how they call him out for not answering direct questions, though honestly I think they're giving him too much leeway to dodge and divert with his "explanations" of things that frankly aren't often even relevant. He's trying to take control of the hearing with his long forays into other topics to divert and delay. I'm glad that it isn't working.

Oh, and sorry, but I can't remember the various female judges off the top of my head. I'm terrible with Bible stories. My wife was talking about it while we were watching, but she went to bed, where I need to head off to myself. I want to stay up but can't pay for it tomorrow at work.

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Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commission Live Hearing Now!

by LostinJapan in

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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

dubstepped

Man, has anyone else been screaming at the screen for the RC to point out that women were indeed judges in the Bible? Jackson keeps saying that it has been men only throughout, and that's not true. I hope they use that at some point.

I wish I didn't have to get some sleep, but work will be there tomorrow whether I get some or not. Stupid lunch. Come on, let's keep this going!

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Geoffrey Jackson Royal Commission update

by umbertoecho in

hello people.

the rc will still go ahead with it's live stream on friday 14th august.

however, it seem that it will be a video link.

dubstepped

Yes Cha Ching, it seems that he only saw what the brothers said in hearings. He managed to miss everything else somehow.