Ugh, I feel for you. I got mad just reading your post. You can't reason with unreasonable people and they will drive you mad if you spend too much time with them. The boundary crossing in the Borg is simply astonishing. From odd family dynamics to the spying that goes on in congregations the toxicity just drips from every pore of the being that is the religion as a whole. To be invalidated in such a manner is just sickening, and like you I look forward to the day where they cannot deny or hide their errors anymore.
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If your Bethelite Brother Doesn't Know About It, It Musn't Be True
by HomebytheSea ina few weeks ago my deeply indoctrinated father who is a long time elder was wondering why we hadn't been attending meetings, and why my 8 yr old son wasn't on the theocratic school ( sounds like i almost off the hook with that one...lol).
we live in a different state, but i came to find out that one of the elders in our hall called my father, who he never met, to see why our meeting attendance had been so sporadic (i am in my mid-40's, so that knowledge made my blood boil, to put it mildly!
i tried not to answer, but he kept pressuring me, so i brought up the arc and child abuse cases i had heard of in our area.
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Crazy Study Stories
by dubstepped ini never really had any studies to speak of, but my parents did have many over the years, and every single one of them was batsh!t crazy in some way.
there was one lady we kids affectionately termed "dirty robin" (her name was robin) and yes, she was very dirty.
her kids were filthy and rarely wore clothes.
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@Faithful Witness : Don't worry, we know that the crazies were in the organization for sure. I knew tons of them. I probably was one in my own way. Heck, I dealt with a lot of depression and even suicidal thoughts at the hands of the Borg. I still need to write my story up and post it here now that I'm officially out with nothing to hide. Anyway yes, it is like the old saying, birds of a feather flock together. We drew a lot of crazies to us because we were crazy too.
@Dunedain : Thanks for sharing your experiences too. And good for your parents for still talking to you. My wife and I just lost our families, in part because I stood up after years of shunning my DF'ed brother and decided that I could no longer do so. I too was a conservative kid that got stuck studying with wild kids at times. It wasn't much fun because they couldn't have cared less. I was essentially a babysitter so the parents could study together, kind of like it sounds like you ended up being at times. Great stories.
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What is the most bizarre counsel you received as a JW, from a JW?
by Funchback inthere were many addressed to me.
for example, i once had a sister tell me i was gambling because i liked playing skill crane (the machine where you have to try to pick up prizes like stuffed animals) at the arcade.
i then fired back a her: "you saw the r-rated movie 'backdraft.
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People who reached out to foreign speaking territories were counselled not to just do that because they'd be neglecting the English speakers. Even when reaching out you couldn't do it right.
A brother's suit was too gold. Another brother's hair was too long. The school overseer counseled against wearing bright colors or shiny buttons on stage. I was counselled because my friend made dirty jokes and as a ministerial servant I guess I was supposed to control everyone. I drove too fast for some in the ministry despite a perfect driving record. I once said "it wasn't like I flipped him off" after an elder criticized me for being frustrated at a guy that nearly drove into me and was counselled for violating his daughter's ears with such language.
A brother was seen riding in a car with a sister he wasn't married to alone as he and his wife helped her move and had to take the moving truck back. Nobody else helped the sister move, but someone did see the two of them together after dropping the truck off going back to the house where his wife was waiting. It was scandalous.
We were counselled against playing tackle football. I was even ripped for it by a sister during a field service group that I was leading. That was pleasant.
I once got the stage ready for the meeting and watched a sister go up and move it around because she liked it better that way.
I could echo many others here as well. They are crazy judgemental whack-jobs, straining out the gnat while gulping down the camel as someone stated earlier.
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Crazy Study Stories
by dubstepped ini never really had any studies to speak of, but my parents did have many over the years, and every single one of them was batsh!t crazy in some way.
there was one lady we kids affectionately termed "dirty robin" (her name was robin) and yes, she was very dirty.
her kids were filthy and rarely wore clothes.
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I never really had any studies to speak of, but my parents did have many over the years, and every single one of them was batsh!t crazy in some way. There was one lady we kids affectionately termed "Dirty Robin" (her name was Robin) and yes, she was very dirty. Her kids were filthy and rarely wore clothes. My parents were dumb enough to let her in our house and she stole from us. She was dumber than a rock, but she played them, so who was the dumb one in the end?
There was a couple on the same block as "Dirty Robin" who had demons. The wife was suicidal. I remember seeing things move in the house as a kid. It was super creepy in there and the people were super weird.
One study my dad had would be naked sometimes when my dad would arrive. Another woman professed to have written many popular songs of Elvis and others and lived in nasty little apartment with her name and "songwriter" under it on a plaque on the door. She told my mom that we were such well behaved kids, so did she tie us in chairs when we were little? Sure, seems like a logical conclusion, lol.
A few studies got deported, but I believe there were criminal circumstances that led to that. There were a few nice people that never took any of it really seriously but enjoyed the social aspect.
So many years, so many hours spent, and not one person ever came into the religion. So many crazies did come into our lives though. How about you?
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Latest rumor - all WT construction "suspended", except for Warwick
by sir82 inheard 4th-hand, but from a full-on believer, so not likely to be an "apostate lie":.
apparently, at bethel's morning worship this morning, it was announced that all worldwide wts construction is "suspended" for an indefinite time, except for the new world headquarters at warwick.. also, the "relocation" of remote translating teams is also suspended.. finally, there will be a "worldwide" reduction in bethel personnel.. all this came to me in a non-english language, and,as noted, 4th-hand.
so it is possible something may have been lost in translation and/or in the multiple steps between bethel morning worship & me.. but if true, it would be quite stunning.
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Fisherman: My money goes to the WT.
Fixed that for you.
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The bridge burning has begun.
by sparrowdown ini was feeling particularly hopeless about the whole jws being assholes thing and sick to death of pretending so ....
i rang my sister and told her that i no longer believe jws have the truth and the phone went silent, when i asked her to say something she just said if that was the case then she would have to hang up on me and then proceeded to indeed hang up..
so i texted her back immediately with fu..
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Another great video of a normal, healthy, exjw expressing themselves on their exit
by freemindfade inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwglexnsmdy.
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Loved hearing her story, and my wife and I had a similar experience. We too had been building up the moment of our DAing for many years without knowing, now that we look at it. We just wanted "the truth" and allowed ourselves to question after enough things didn't make sense to us, and it took us away from everything we had believed in for our whole lives. I'm so happy for her and her family. Fly and be free! -
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Help Me Undertand...
by DarioKehl inaccording to the 2014 annual report:.
"worldwide, there are 115,416 congregations of jehovahs witnesses and 8,201,545 publishers.".
i don't understand how the borg is facing financial difficulty.
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I have two words for you:
BAD INVESTMENTSWhat in the world could you invest in so poorly at to ruin the millions of dollars they have coming in at will? They have a lot tied up in real estate, but that can't all be bad. It seems like they would have had to tie up a tremendous amount in something that quickly went south. My friend seems to think that the sexual abuse payouts will cripple them, but I don't think it is but a drop in the bucket, so there would have to be some huge mishandling of money.
I don't doubt you if this is indeed the case, I just can't imagine what investment would be so horrid so as to cripple the finances of a company that is just given tax free money at will. It certainly wouldn't be very "discreet" to invest so unwisely.
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The bridge burning has begun.
by sparrowdown ini was feeling particularly hopeless about the whole jws being assholes thing and sick to death of pretending so ....
i rang my sister and told her that i no longer believe jws have the truth and the phone went silent, when i asked her to say something she just said if that was the case then she would have to hang up on me and then proceeded to indeed hang up..
so i texted her back immediately with fu..
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Fantastic post Island Man! I've felt the same but you expressed it so beautifully. I bookmarked this just for your post. Love it! -
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The bridge burning has begun.
by sparrowdown ini was feeling particularly hopeless about the whole jws being assholes thing and sick to death of pretending so ....
i rang my sister and told her that i no longer believe jws have the truth and the phone went silent, when i asked her to say something she just said if that was the case then she would have to hang up on me and then proceeded to indeed hang up..
so i texted her back immediately with fu..
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dubstepped
Good for you! It is so empowering to bust right through that fear of man and realize that they really can't do anything to you. In the end they don't respect or love you if you have to be someone you're not just to keep contact with them. The title of a book on dealing with people that suffer from borderline personality disorder is called "Walking On Eggshells" and is a hallmark of ones that deal with people with the disorder. I walked on eggshells most of my life and now I can stomp, run, jump, or anything I want without the worry that something breaks due to it. I'm just me, take me or leave me, and I've found more people willing to take me on now than I ever did in Jehovah's loving happy wonderful "true friends" organization.
You know that example given where a person is in a flood an up on the roof and they pray to God for saving and a boat shows up, a helicopter, and something else, and the person is disappointed because God never came to save them, but in reality he sent them a boat and helicopter and something else? Well, my whole life I never really had friends in the organization. I prayed and prayed and constantly turned down offers to hang out with worldly people because that's not how it was "supposed" to happen right? Now I realize that I had, and passed up, many opportunities for friendship because an isolationist cult led me to to so, and I regret that. I now have more supportive people than ever in my life. There's that scripture that JW's love to use about losing mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters for the sake of his name and how we would gain mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters in the future. Well, it applies to me and NOT in the way the Watchtower intended. I've lost my fleshly family but have gained people that actually care about ME for who I am, not for who they think I am or want me to be.
I'm proud of you. You've taken a brave step.